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Can anyone throw any light on this item please? Not sure if it was a token or a medallion but someone has converted it into a necklace since it was originally issued!!!!
It clearly has the Philips brand international logo on it but why '75' and what is the significance of the letter 'L'?
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@7s, you know that we are gonna need pics of the front and back of this piece, right? It is hard to compare against the items listed in tokencatalog.com without them. Thx.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Ha...thanks for the reminder....the photo would help!!!
Trying to operate this site on a mobile phone is not recommended but have managed to upload it this time!!
I'm not even sure how something like that is classified though- is it a medallion a token or what?
Thanks again!!!
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Ok yes that definitely helps. Am I being greedy if I ask for a pic of the other side too? Right now, this looks like a medallion or necklace centerpiece rather than a token, but I haven't yet found a similar example.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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United Kingdom
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Thanks Spence. The back is completely plain except for the silver hallmark.
I am guessing it was perhaps issued as a commemoration piece to mark a 75th anniversary of something in the company.
I do eventually intend to remove the added bail that has been soldered on so it can be returned to its original state.
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 Here is the back which is sadly just plain except for the hall mart. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Well that's the Sheffield hallmark for 1975, a year that I can't yet tie to any Philips anniversary.
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06/25/2021 4:42 pm
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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United Kingdom
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The following website gives a very interesting history of Philips entry into the UK market. http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Documents...Hamilton.htmIt does mention that various products were made in buildings designated by letters. To quote... "In 1964 work started on 'L' Building, a state of the art large new production hall at the highest point of the site." Please don't remove the ring at the top (assuming this what you call the "added bail") as it looks integral to the piece. It does appear as if it is to make it to dangle upright. You could also write/email the Philips Museum in Eindhoven as I'm sure they would be able to tell you why it was issued. I also recommend a visit to the museum itself. |
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Hi tokenscot.
Thanks for all that interesting info and advice. However, I have unearthed 3 other such items online which do not have the bail added to make it into a 'pendant'. Having inspected the link carefully, the link or 'bail' has definitely been added 'afterwards'....and badly! (I did silversmithing for a time!).
The 'L' building issue was fascinating though, so thank for highlighting that.
As the item is to be a present for my godson whose wedding to his fiance is next year and as her christian name begins with an 'L', he might want to keep it as a necklace. I doubt he will wantto save it and give it to her on her 75th birthday though!!!!!
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I would only add that I'm certain it wasn't modified into a necklace afterwards, that it began its existence with the loop attached in the form of a necklace.
And that the little figure of Britannia inside the seven-sided indentation bears more than a passing resemblance to the 50 pence coin.
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And that the little figure of Britannia inside the seven-sided indentation bears more than a passing resemblance to the 50 pence coin. My first thought when I saw it was that this might be some publicity item linked to the release of the 50p coin in 1969, but the hallmark date is 6 years after that. |
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1966 was the year the L building was officially opened (hence the L) located in the UK (hence Britannia and her shield) and was also the 75th Anniversary of the Philips Company founded in 1891 (hence the 75 and logo). I think covers all the bases?
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06/27/2021 10:23 pm
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1966 was the year the L building was officially opened (hence the L) located in the UK (hence Britannia and her shield) and was also the 75th Anniversary of the Philips Company founded in 1891 (hence the 75 and logo). I think covers all the bases? Except for the whole part about the lion-rose-cursive-A hallmarks translating to "Made in Sheffield in 1975", as noted by alganbagerap and NumisRob. If it were made in Sheffield in 1966, the hallmarks would be lion-crown-Y. Jewellers in England are obliged by law to get these hallmarks correct, so it's not likely to be a mistake. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Except for the whole part about the lion-rose-cursive-A hallmarks translating to "Made in Sheffield in 1975", as noted by alganbagerap and NumisRob. If it were made in Sheffield in 1966, the hallmarks would be lion-crown-Y. Jewellers in England are obliged by law to get these hallmarks correct, so it's not likely to be a mistake.
Valid point but I wonder if the hallmark year being 1975 is just coincidence. Odd to write a date as 75 instead of 1975 or even '75. I usually associate that style as an anniversary or similar. Maybe made some years after the event? It is a mystery. |
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