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1959-D Lincoln Memorial Cent You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 07/10/2021  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a really nice 1959-D.

PCGS being PCGS, I think they would cap it at MS-66RD, but it looks better than that. It's a bourse floor MS-67RD.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll post the grade at 7:30PM EST. It'll be interesting.
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Past my bedtime, but I'll hang on.
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I'm thinking MS67+ RD although MS68RD won't surprise me either, anything less than MS67 would. Nice coin Grape!
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Beautiful Cent, I really like the Reverse.
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 Posted 07/10/2021  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alright, you will all get a kick out of this

PCGS graded this MS-64

No, that's not a joke. This isn't PCGS TrueView trickery, this is exactly how the coin looks in hand. I was completely and totally floored when I saw this come back as a 64. My only guess is that the graders mistook the thin shallow die scratches as hairlines and dropped the grade.
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WOW that is a travesty, and explains how graders that only spend an average of 2-10 seconds per side per coin, miss things so often. I'd be on the phone to them wanting this to be reviewed.
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Travesty is one word! But seriously, this was almost hilariously bad by them. I was half tempted to call and complain, or bust it out and send it back, but it's almost better to have it in this slab just so I can point it out!
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Wow 64 did they put it at BN for color...
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did they put it at BN for color...


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Seriously?

I'll gladly take a full roll of those PCGS "64" coins, please. Forget them not being in the ballpark. They aren't even in the time zone.
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As soon as I saw you and WestCoin comment I had a small giggle fit. I'm used to undergrading from PCGS and overgrading from NGC, but THIS, now this was undergrading to a new level.

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PCGS tries to make up for undergrading U.S. coins by ridiculously overgrading Canadian coins. I can't tell you how many VF Canadian and Maritime coins I have seen PCGS slab high EF to mid-AU.
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forget them not being in the ballpark. They aren't even in the time zone.

They are not in the year. That's crazy. That coin would have been ms-68rd if I was the grader.
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