1958 D Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC Split Die - Page 2

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t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 08/08/2021 08:51 am Spectacular shattered die. Congratulations! Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97162 Posts	Posted 08/08/2021 09:02 am Have to admit, when I first read the title, I expected to see a coin that had cracks covering the entire coin. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 08/08/2021 1:45 pm The failure of the two "arms" of the "split" to meet in the center suggests that these are, instead, a pair of radial, antipodal die cracks. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2736 Posts	Posted 08/08/2021 3:09 pm Quote: The failure of the two "arms" of the "split" to meet in the center suggests that these are, instead, a pair of radial, antipodal die cracks. Mike, I wonder if it's possible to determine a split die based off how much the radial line has been broken? i.e. if it is broken 2/3 or 3/4 accross then at some point it's impossible for the (hammer die?) to not be split? "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 08/11/2021 8:05 pm I don't understand your question, CoinHi. Are you referring to the distance between the approaching, visible ends of the two arms? I don't see this as a useful clue to the continuity of the crack across the die face. More useful is whether one or both cracks appear close to pinching out before being lost to view. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2736 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 01:30 am Thanks Mike, My question was about die durability and whether a hammer die could strike intact while losing "X" amount of integrity from approaching antipodal die cracks, factoring in depth/severity of the cracks as well. This is likely unanswerable but a question that came to mind. The bottom die crack on this coin appears to widen, instead of pinching off, before disappearing into the die subsidence. Is this of any significance? "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
Pauley Valued Member United States 109 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 01:32 am very nice and Congrats Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5785 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 02:31 am Can you give us a closeup of the center part of the coin? (the shirt collar and jaw under the ear) Try spinning the coin in the light to see if there is a crack in the center? Your full obverse image is good but you didn't have a closeup as you do of the two cracks. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 09:07 am CoinHi, the lower crack appears to be disappearing into a minor die subsidence (sunken die) error. Such errors are often seen in conjunction with both split dies and radial, antipodal die cracks. The softer metal in the subsiding area can stop a crack from propagating. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
11997755 Pillar of the Community United States 2253 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 2:38 pm Quote: Can you give us a closeup of the center part of the coin? I'm curious about that location too. Then my question would be is that if there is no indication of a crack in that that area; Would it be considered a split die ? Report this Post to the Staff
dbrablec Pillar of the Community United States 1944 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 3:26 pm very cool coin... nice photos - too... Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 3:56 pm There's no way to tell at this point whether the crack was continuous. Even if it was, it would only be considered a rim-to-rim die crack. It's not wide enough to qualify as a split die. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
11997755 Pillar of the Community United States 2253 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 6:04 pm Thank you Mike for the clarification of the difference between a rim to rim crack and a split die. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 6:20 pm A split die is a lot more noticeable. (Edited with Mike Diamonds comments) Edited by coop 08/12/2021 10:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2736 Posts	Posted 08/12/2021 6:24 pm Since the arms don't meet, Is this mislabeled or does the curved arm indicate a split? "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
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