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No Date-No Cud Washington Quarter!

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 Posted 08/18/2021  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The area in which the date was located looks suspiciously different, it looks buffed!
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 Posted 08/18/2021  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The clad layer would not be showing. By the appearance and relief to the coin, I would say the OP's quarter is from the late 1980's to 1990's. The dates are thin and very easy to remove. Judging by the polished look, I am almost positive this is a tooled coin.

To come to this conclusion, I decided to make my own "dateless" quarter. I looked in my jar of quarters, found a circulated 1989, and used basic tools to remove the date. I used a chisel for the first pass, cleaned it up with sandpaper, and buffed out the scratches with a polishing wheel on a dremel. It took five minutes and doesn't look professional, but good enough for a demonstration. The OP's coin had been done by somebody more experienced than me

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There is no comparison (in MY opinion). Yours looks like it took five minutes, just as you said it took you. You raise an interesting theory, but I still think the OP's coin is grease-filled.
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I'm going for a Grease Filled Die. It is possible that the coin was valued or considered lucky and was kept in their pocket where it could have gotten that 'polished' look by being rubbed by a hand in the pocket and by the material over a period of time..
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 Posted 08/18/2021  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If jacrispied took a few more minutes to buff his coin out, it could look closer to the ops coin. The fact that the coin in question is clearly polished where the date would be is very suspect.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were sanded, the rim would be affected more. A mostly filled die with grease will prevent the devices from fully forming.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that is a good point @coop, but I'm still on the fence on this one. Here is a close-up of the OP's coin:

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Weight of the coin would determine if material has been removed. Under weight means PMD/PSD If it weighs what it should I would say Grease Filled Die Can you get the weight in grams for us.
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jacrispies

Since you used and abused that innocent coin in the name of science for a good cause can you get the weight of yours.
Don't worry about the coin, I did far worse to them as a young lad myself


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I am working on getting a good magnifier and scale for the coin in question as well to help with furthering my collection. I can not appreciate enough all of your feedback. When I get the weight on the coin, I will post the weight on here ASAP!
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After my experiment, the quarter weighs 5.65 grams.
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So for your experiment, your coin lost .65g. Now lets wait for the coin in question to get that weight.
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So for your experiment, your coin lost .65g. Now lets wait for the coin in question to get that weight.


Not to be too picky about accuracy, but wouldn't the weight loss on jacrispies altered quarter be +/- .02g?
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This would be very very hard to replicate but those do look like horizontal scratches on the bust. The reverse doesn't show this kind of damage.
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Clad : 5.7 grams is normal weight +/- .19 grams.
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