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I Found this Washington quarter in pocket change the other day. There is no date on the obverse or reverse. I am new to collecting, but I know enough that there is no Cud. I also do not see any evidence whatsoever of scratches or scrapes in an attempt to remove the date. It is not in perfect condition but I highly doubt that it is PMD. Any information would be HIGHLY appreciated. I can not find any other coin like it ANYWHERE!!
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 Posted 08/17/2021  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If there is truly no PMD, it could be a grease-filled die, but I am not convinced. Let's have the experts chime in. If it's real (mint error), nice find! Could be worth a small premium given the grease being confined to the date region.
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It looks tooled to me. The area where the date used to be appears to be a different color and texture than the rest of the coin. The bottom of George's bust appears to have been affected as well.
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Looks like a partial Grease Filled Die.
You can faintly see where the numbers were.

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Since I first posted, I further inspected the coin. There has been no tooling or PMD that affected the should-be date area. The surface and texture of the area is the same as any other part of the coin. Also, the obverse seems to have a proof-like finish. I am new to collecting but if you can see your reflection in a coin, doesn't that means that it's a proof?
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I want to say a Grease Filled Die issue, but I'm intrigued with the 'tooled' possibility.
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@snak, first welcome to CCF. Second, this is not a proof coin. Second, could you please add a close up pic of just the area where the date should be *after taking the coin out of the 2x2*. I'm on the fence on this one and would like a little clearer pic of just the area of interest. Your overall pics, by the way, are well above average for a first time poster.
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. Weight?
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I too am questioning the tooled theory, there seems to be scratches in the date area I don't like. Certainly not a proof coin. It could be a grease-filled die, but the question of being altered would keep any resell price very low. I am rooting for this one to be a Greaser, but just don't know.

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People, Don't you think if the date area was "tooled" in any way it would have resulted in the clad layer being removed or the reverse area showing some signs of damage....I'm in at @ 90% saying....Grease filled die.
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If it were a Cud, the date area would be taller than the rim and the reverse would be showing weakness opposite that area:
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I don't know how much these can help. Having trouble getting a good quality picture with out glare. I don't have a magnifying glass or scale for weight yet. Will be getting them soon!

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Definitely looks like PMD. The tool marks were concealed in the coin being wizzed or polished. You can see the parallel lines all over the obverse. Because it has the cleaned/whizzed appearance, it is more shiny and resulted in a "proof like" appearance.
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I think Greasy is right, this has to be a grease-filled die. Unless plated, tooling would reveal the clad layer.
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Please crop photos properly before posting...thanks. You also need to put a filter over your light source.
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