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1995 P Quarter Doubling Check

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 Posted 08/24/2021  6:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good afternoon everyone,

I'm still not super confident in my ability to spot hub doubling yet, so please bear with me, it is a work in progress. I noticed this apparent doubling on the left side of the 1, second 9, and the 5 in the date, with some significant extra thickness on IGWT that I believe is just damage. Please let me know what you all think.


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 Posted 08/24/2021  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best way to tell is to look at normal coins. See how they are. Find the earliest die states. That way you have an idea what the normal design looks like. Also check the proof coins. The dies have the same design and are often in a lot earlier die states as these dies are only used for 6K strikes, to produce 3K coins but as the dies age, the devices closest to the rim will show the most die wear. Why? Because the metal movement happens that way. So not on your coin. Note the "IN" compared with the "WE". Now you start to see that if die wear happens, the way the die is altered.
Wexler doesn't list a 1995 DDO:
But there is a 1990-S Proof listed
http://doubleddie.com/1827609.html
Note that the date was altered on this DDO. Note how the devices were affected evenly?
1983-S DDR:
http://doubleddie.com/1827588.html
Note how the devices are affected on these:

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1983-S 25¢ Pr WDDR-001 "Best Of" Variety
Description: A spread towards the center shows on USA, QUARTER DOLLAR, the outer edge of both wings, and the lower leaves in the wreath.

But note the 1997 quarter:
http://doubleddie.com/2337937.html
That is the first listing of the single squeeze dies. So quarters started in 1997. How do I know this? Well the single squeeze dies are on the earlobes. So that tells me an aprox. date for the class 9 obverse doubled dies.

So on your coin, I'm just seeing die wear. So what to look for on these, not the size of the "IN" and "WE" on these designs for excessive die wear. Sometimes all of the quarter can look like that if the master hub is aging. So when it doubt, check it out. See if it is a year issue/die issue of just coin wear. Looking deeper into something will eather give you answers, or more question to ask here to see what is really going on.
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 Posted 08/24/2021  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop I have 4 other 1995 p quarters sitting right here to compare it to, I did so several times before I posted it. I figured the IGWT was just damage, as stated above but I was hoping to get confirmation (thanks for that btw!), but my question about the doubling is in the date. The left side of the 1, the second 9, and the 5. None of the other 4 show anything that looks like it, and it doesn't look flat like nav doubling. Any thoughts on it?
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 Posted 08/24/2021  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like slight Machine Doubling. Keep in mind a doubled die will enlarge the spread in the center of the devices.:
http://doubleddie.com/1827609.html
Note on this die how the devices are wider than normal. That is spread. What you are seeing on the is MD. MD is always on the outsides of the devices. The spread enlarges the centers of the devices.
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 Posted 08/24/2021  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, md.
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 Posted 08/25/2021  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very minor MD on the date and circulation wear/flattening on IGWT.
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 Posted 08/25/2021  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop Thank you for the second description, it explained it perfectly! Now I understand what you were trying to say. Thank you for your patience everyone! I've ss'd it to keep for reference.
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