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1984 Lincoln Memorial Cent With DDO / DDR?

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This 1984 LMC appears to be a match for WDDO-001 and WDDR-010. It also has a split in the rim between LIBERTY and IGWT. My questions to the community are A. Whether consensus from the community that it is a match for both DDO and DDR. B. This cent has doubling along the right of the memorial. C. There is something going on under both A's in AMERICA under the black area. Is there a reason that errors are sometimes blacked out on coins. Is it something with a overheating or damaging to the die?
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A couple that didn't save when optimizing pictures.
Thanks,
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Well your coin looks normal to me. The WDDO-001 should look like this:
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Your example is just a normal coin.
The DDR is a very light spread on the bottom right side of the devices. Again yours looks normal from what I can see.
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Thanks coop. Would you explain the area under the ear for me. It might not be WDDO-1 but the area under the ear does not appear normal. There appears to be doubling all over this coin.
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A- neither
B- no
c- black carbon spots

You have a normal coin that is beginning to show split plating (by the 9 in date). Value: one cent.
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Split plating occurs during the strike. The microscopically thin layer of copper that coats the zinc cored Cent is stretched to its "breaking point", ruptures or 'splits', and therefore allows the zinc core of the copper Cent to expose itself which would show as a silver or gray color. This is not the case in your example. What you have on the date of your coin is simply Die Deterioration which makes it look like it is doubled, but it is not. I do not see any signs of split plating on your coin which does not matter. Split plating is absolutely worthless. Your coin is a normal 1984 Lincoln. I do see a lot of discoloration on your coin which is nothing more than a Zinc Cent that has been exposed to the environment... perfectly normal with these horrible Zincolns. It will eventually lead to what is referred to as 'Zinc Rot' that is completely irreversible. Nothing worth keeping IMHO.
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Thanks Bumpkin, merclover and coop,

I will get the hang of these DDO/R eventually. Thanks for the information and feedback.
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Take your time. We will help you see what we see on your coins and what we are not seeing on your coins. Without the variety, it a normal coin. Ask questions. You not only benefit, but other new ones reading the threads will benefit also.

Under the ear on your coin looks like a stain or a peeling of the plating showing the gray zinc planchet below. On a doubled die, the metal will be raised, just the normal devices above the fields or above the devices. Here is a page of what the doubled ears look like. Click to open the images to max to see what a doubled ear looks like:
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Again, not all these ears rise above the fields or design. If there is a contact mark on the lobe, it is not a doubled ear, but coin contact. Don't for to enlarge the images, that helps you see it a lot better.
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Thank you for that coop. I will take that advice moving forward.
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I'm curious as to what is going on at the points where I added arrows.

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Also Congrats on your of 50 posts! is it contest time?
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Looks like the start of a Cud, 84 was a heck of a year for Cuds. Check out Cuds on coins, there is about a hundred of them.
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It also has a split in the rim between LIBERTY and IGWT.

The area that you added the arrows to was the split I referred to in the body of this original post Dearborn. Thank you for acknowledging that area and for the congratulations on 50 posts. &
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Thank you cujohn,
I actually found the cuds-on-coins site just today to try to find a couple coins I will be posting here shortly.
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If you see gray under those area on the rim, then the plating is getting loose. (Not a good thing if this is happening as the zinc is being exposed) If the area under it is plated, the metal maybe folding over. (Example if a folded fin maybe what happened?) If there is not under area and it is just raised, it maybe a thin rim Cud on that area. Just hard to say from the images provided. No big premium for either of these, but inquiring minds just want to know what it is. This maybe from a tilted die strike? Just hard to tell for sure what it is at this time.
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Thanks for explaining what the possibilities on the rim could be coop.
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