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Valued Member
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I'm new at this and wanted to know what they call
Separation between devices and what causes it?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not sure what you are calling separation? Hub doubling, or Machine Doubling, damage to the coin or something else? Possible images, that will speak a thousand words to us. |
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@penny, any chance of you posting a picture of an example of this separation? There are a wide variety of different types of doubling, si it is hard to say more without a pic I think. Thx.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 and a clear explanation of what it is you want to know. Without them we can't help you |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We'd be guessing like a guy who was thinking about going on a blind date? "What does she look like?" Without pictures, how would the other person respond? "Well, (with a pause after it, is never a good sign)"
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Valued Member
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Valued Member
United States
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  My question was the separation or width of the devices in this case the "R "U and "S "T soforth |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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That is the way they are on the striking die.
Once a die is made, the letters are permanent and can't move.
There might be a slight difference in certain years if a new die was
produced but they would all be the same in any one year.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The space on the fresh die of a normal coin will be have definite spacing. As the die ages, the die wear patterns can make these devices taller.   The devices move towards the rim. The more coins are struck, the devices can even touch the rim. The devices are tapered. If they weren't, the coins would stick into the dies and be a problem with each strike.
So could the space between these devices get wider? Yes. When a die is polished, the fields (the outer part of the die) will be reduced, making the devices smaller/shorter in size, even appearing to be further apart.  Thus as the die ages, the dies will have lines, called flow lines.  These can appear between these devices, making the space look wider. But these are just examples of a worn die, so there is no premium for these. A true collector will see these and pass on these coins looking for an earlier die state. But they are just normal die aging events. Hope this helps? CoopHome: Can spaces between devices change as the die ages?Edited by coop
09/06/2021 2:21 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Thank you so much I have a example of a 1959d here is this what you mean what's this called  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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That is extreme die wear.
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Pillar of the Community
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My question was the separation or width of the devices in this case the "R "U and "S "T soforth Welcome. Not to nitpick but I'm looking for a little clarification. Separation of devices and width of devices are two different things. Kind of like asking how much separation is there between cars in a parking lot and how wide is your car. I'm asking to try and see if you were asking about separation in relation to true doubled dies or widely separated Mint Marks on RPM's? Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Valued Member
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Well you could say you are talking about the incritions yes and no the inscription s related to the t is wide or separated by width but the spacing between the rim and inscription is separated in width like the second picture the inscription "WE" both are good answers and would like your opinion
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