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1987 Silver Eagle PCI MS-70

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 Posted 09/18/2021  7:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add legendstud to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
anyone know what this might be worth?
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 Posted 09/18/2021  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@leg, first welcome to CCF. Second, to see what sort of premium there might be to bullion value, have you tried looking at ebay sold prices yet?
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 Posted 09/18/2021  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add legendstud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but this is PCI which is older grading service and the coin is rainbow toned so needed some opinions.
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If this really is a MS-70 coin (not so sure), then it should be worth around $1,200 according to PCGS.
https://www.PCGS.com/prices/detail/.../most-active
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 Posted 09/18/2021  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say $35-$40. What you have is a nicely toned bullion ASE. The greysheet for MS69/OGP is $33.50-$35.00. Its graded MS 70 by PCI which the market doesn't value highly, so in essence you have a bullion coin. Hence my value. No one will give MS70 money for a coin graded by PCI.
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 Posted 09/18/2021  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pkluck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
E-bay isn't a great way to value coins, overpriced and almost always can be found for (a lot) less elsewhere. Concur with hfjacinto
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@legenstud: If you truly believe your coin is MS-70 (something I would suggest is highly unlikely), you need to submit it to PCGS and have them assign a grade.

The only way you will ever be able to sell the coin for more than the range hfjacinto is suggesting, is by having it in a holder that is considered far more credible vs. PCI.


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The thing is it will cost you more to get it grade by PCGS, if it doesn't turns out to be a MS-70, so if you believe it can graded as a MS-70, this is what you have to decide for yourself.
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. PCI is not one of the three trusted companies. Your coin does have very nice eye appeal and the toning looks to be natural. It will most likely not grade a 70 at any of the TPGs that are trusted.I just checked ebay sold values which gives you a really good idea on current values, IMHO and only a few are slabbed and do not look naturally toned to me
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nk..._Complete=1. If you have to get a real grade on it I would look into sending it to ANACS.
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PCI slabs are known for circular toning of coins, especially ASEs. There is a premium for those.

PCI Gold box grading is, politely, bunk.

If you check on ebay, search for MS-69 and PCI Toning. But most of them will be currently in PCGS holders which will cost you to regrade.
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E-bay isn't a great way to value coins, overpriced and almost always can be found for (a lot) less elsewhere

I disagree. For many (especially recently with the pandemic) ebay is THE market.
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 Posted 09/19/2021  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A 100 maybe.
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I will respectfully agree to disagree regarding ebay. Overpriced.
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to use ebay as a price guide you need to check out SOLD prices, not asking prices..
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I know a lot of people pay ebay prices I only ask why? I see common bullion morgans/Peace selling for $40-$50, who are buying these? The coin shown is a nice toned bullion ASE, if you pay more than $40, you are overpaying. Just my 2 cents.
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Third-rate grading service. Coin needs to be resubmitted from scratch.
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