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Pillar of the Community
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Stopped by a little coin shop and was looking at some Wheaties when the dealer handed me this. This was an impulse buy as I have been looking for one of these for a long time to go in my Dansco. I would appreciate your opinion as to its grade and whether the E in cent on the reverse is a clue to attribution. Thanks,   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe the hair detail and strength of the reverse legend are consistent with VG-10.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with Bilbo on a VG-10 details grade. This coin has a granular surface that I would say is due to light corrosion (aka "environmental damage"). As such it should have cost you considerably less than a no-problem coin with smooth surfaces. It does have strong detail and it should do fine to fill that album hole.
The 1798 cent comes in two distinct varieties: the "first" and "second" hair styles. Can anyone say which type this one is? Also, what is the best way to tell them apart? The "second hair style" type seems to command a premium in most grades.
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Moderator
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There is still enough detail on the hair and the drapery on the bust, I'm going to say at least F-12.
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Pillar of the Community
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Can anyone say which type this one is? Also, what is the best way to tell them apart? The "second hair style" type seems to command a premium in most grades. Using Sheldon's guide, this is a type 2 hair, identified by the curled lock W of the shoulder. This type started with S-165 onwards...I haven't figured out which one yet.  Any ideas? |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It actually would grade F-15 from the front, maybe just F-12+ with the weaker reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
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I really like the look of this coin. My guess is Fine.
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Using Sheldon's guide, this is a type 2 hair, identified by the curled lock W of the shoulder. This type started with S-165 onwards...I haven't figured out which one yet. Kurt looking on Heritage at some Type 1 and Type 2 hairstyles I cant seem to see much difference. Would it be possible to elaborate on what your Sheldon guide is referring too? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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According to my Red Book the Style 2 has extra hair curls near the shoulder. Yours matching the picture for Style 2. Style 1 has very little "curling" near the shoulder. Nice pick up! I agree with the Fine grade. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Duh!! When in doubt consult the Red Book. Yes I see the difference now. Thanks bherring. |
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Pillar of the Community
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 well, I grabbed a pic all the same--pointing to that curl. Even with the book, I haven't figured out this one. I thought perhaps the S-187, but the obverse die crack doesn't match up. (On your coin, the position of LIBERTY to the hair is pretty distinctive).  |
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Pillar of the Community
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NIce looking coin.
How much does he want for it?
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Pillar of the Community
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wwhitman,
He wanted $200 for it and that's what I paid.
Kurt,
Its so hard for me to tell anything different about the placement of Liberty. What is it that you see that makes it unique?
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Pillar of the Community
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What is it that you see that makes it unique? I try attributing this series, and often find the the position of LIBERTY in relation to the hair curls below helps me narrow down things. For this particular year, the E position in LIBERTY is often further CW than on your particular coin. Your coin is distinctive in that way, in that I see only 6 style 2 obverses that come close: on S-173, 180, 181, 186, 187. In addition to the date, another determining detail can be the position of the fraction bar on the reverse. All said, I'm still unsure here... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Kurt,
Would closeups of particular parts of this coin be helpful?
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm not sure in my case, because my attribution guide (Sheldon's "Penny Whimsy") Has fairly small pics. That's part of the problem on my end.
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Posted 01/15/2009 4:27 pm
