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A MS 62 coin, for example, still has the luster, cartwheel & devices matching Photograde's MS 62 photos after being whizzed.
Would it still keep this grade after the whizzing occured?
The only noticeable change is the presence of the very fine lines where the wires hit up against the patina.
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@mdp, I'm interested to hear what others think, but I thought that whizzing meant that the coin is no longer grade-able, or at best with a details designation.
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In my opinion, the short answer is
NO
An MS62 coin (unwhizzed), should show no wear anywhere, with only the slightest scuffing of the luster on the high points.
If a coin has been whizzed, it can be automatically assumed that the whizzing has caused wear on the high points of the design, and thus the damaged coin by definition cannot get any grade MS-60 or above.
I agree with Spence the a TPGrader would refuse to grade it.
However for many collectors, including myself, the coin still has some value, and still worthy of consideration for purchase at the right price.
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Definitely it would not. Whizzing = ungraqdable.
Edited by Coinfrog
10/04/2021 8:31 pm
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Canada
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Whizzing equates to coin murder!
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glad to see Pacificoin is so laissez faire about whizzing..
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United States
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Best you could expect when graded would be UNC Details - Whizzed, or UNC Details - Improperly Cleaned.
Edited by Conder101
10/05/2021 06:29 am
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 with KenKat who agrees with Conder 101 .  |
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...UNC Details - Improperly Cleaned. Improperly cleaned is now properly clarified  |
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No dont do it or even think about it.
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It depends on how you define whizzing
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Well, Whizzing by definition is removing small amounts of metal from the surface in an attempt to make the coin look birght. That obviously is contrary to a mint condition. So either he is defining whizzing differently or his idea of mint is worng.
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. joking with this question. The purpose of this forum is to gain knowledge from a diverse group of discriminating members likely to point out erroneous affirmations. When I ask questions it is because I do not want to waste exorbitant amounts of time doing research work on my own that can be at times drudgery. To keep this short I simply wanted to avoid reading a 384 page book like " ANA Grading Standards" by Bressett and find out that no discussion exists about HOW these experts arrived at each MS level, especially 60. Sure, I feel confident that this book differentiates each grading level adequately for graders to follow which would be the primary scope of its writing. But all of this is post-development implementation of the standards. In my case I desired to better grasp the reasoning of the ANA committee of experts that essentially took over in the 1970s the Sheldon-created MS scale begun in the 1940s. I asked myself how they could justify scratches and dents for an MS 60 coin as acceptable but exclude very much less noticeable minuscule fine lines. Do not all dents, scratches and fine whiz lines compromise the integrity of the patina? It seemed like a reasonable inquiry deserving clarification but undeserving of ridicule. |
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Posted 10/04/2021 7:29 pm
