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1991 P Spike Head ++++?

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 Posted 10/09/2021  9:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DACWG183 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys. This 1991 is a spike head with a die crack running through the W on we. The crack goes into the head and down the ear. Also splits off on the head. It's pretty large. Along with this I see what looks like Lamination issues on both sides. Liberty and the date. On the date side it starts at the T in trust and goes all the way past the date. Both sides go rim to rim. I'm not sure if you will be able to see on the pictures but there is a definite definitive line on these lamination areas in question.

On the reverse there seems to be the same going on as far as lamination? Also in the 9th and 11th bay something is going on. Bay 9 looks like a small clash. Bay 11 has a sort of drip looking going on which may also be a die clash. I'm just not sure. The rim also looks like something is happening.

I'm posting in hopes you guys can look and tell me what you see. I'm hesitant to say multiple errors because I know that usually doesn't happen. Also I forgot to mention at the base of the bust there are very small die chips. I soaked this in Acetone already. I also rubbed with a soft cloth. I know the rubbing isn't acceptable but I wanted anything to come off that wasn't part of the coin. It wasn't dirty when found. It looks pretty much the same as it did.
Thanks for looking and I look forward to what I can learn on this one. God bless
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 Posted 10/09/2021  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a nice die crack plus maybe some plating issues plus a tired die. There might be a rolled over Rim Fin by LIBERTY.
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 Posted 10/10/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DACWG183 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information guys. I'm getting better at this day by day. The die crack is very strong. It splits in the head and eventually makes it to the ear and a little past. If the die crack is split at some point is there a different name for that? I know there is a retained die break bit that is when it goes from rim to rim?
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I have found about a dozen or so of these spike heads, some more sever I out aside. I have not looked too much into theses errors. I think if the die crack goes from one part of the rim to a separate part of the rim it is a retained broken die, but I know there is other formes where the die crack has a die chip and splits into more then one die crack. I'll have to look more into these.
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@wrekkdd thanks. I have looked and read about them. My problem is looking at what I have in front of me and determining what it is. Same is true with doubling. I have come a long way in recognition of it but for whatever reason what I see in front of me always varys from pictures on line slightly.
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 Posted 10/10/2021  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not great with doubled dies, have not looked at enough uncirculated Lincoln cents, so if there is no clear split in the bars or serifs I just out it aside.im sure I have several WDDO and WDDR but I'm not confident enough in my own ability to justify posting them yet lol. As for Canadian coins I have some MD that could be doubled dies, hard to differentiate on Canadian circulation cents. I though I found a DDR 2006 nickel but turns out there was master hub doubling so it's on every one that year lol. Practice, study and persistence seems to be the key to the hobby:)
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Practice, study and persistence seems to be the key to the hobby:)

BINGO! Well said, Wrekkdd!
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Nice spike head. As for the lam, this is a zincoln, there is no lams on them. I believe the yellow areas on your coin is glue. Try a soak in water first, then acetone. That way you take care of water based glue or solvent based glue.
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Thanks merclover:) also congrats on the 7k milestone!!.
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Looks like the coin was a cup holder example for a while. The color and the thickening on the fields looks like residue. (LIB and RST on TRUST)
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 Posted 10/10/2021  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice spiked head die crack. I've also seen the term bisecting die crack if it goes completely across the coin from side to side like this one is starting to do.
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