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Bedrock of the Community
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I seriously searched for full step nickels in new change in the early to mid 1980's. Every now and then I'd find a very nice 1982 or 1983 with some steps. These two years seem to be in high demand because there were no mint sets those years except the souvenir sets. I wish I had kept all the 1982 and 1983's but I only kept a handful of the better struck ones. They were pretty hard to find. My reason for posting is this? It seems I have two types of reverses for the 1982's for both P and D's so I labeled them as TY1 and TY2 but I am thinking that they are probably more properly labeled as 1982 reverse of 1977 and 1982 reverse of 1982. I will show what I am talking about here in pictures. It appears that there may even be extra lines about the dome a much sharper fence on the porches and sharper double lines around the windows on the newly redesigned 1982. Also, the lettering appears closer to the rim on the version I call reverse of 1977. PS: I did discover this on my own in 1982, but I am sure somebody has documented this if it is a variety. If anyone can elaborate, please do. I do not feel that my nickels with lesser detail are from worn or polished dies, mainly because the dies were reworked or redesigned in 1982 and would not have been this lacking in detail this quickly. I also have both Denver that appear like this.   Edited by TNG
01/16/2009 7:57 pm
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It does also look like the letters on the Reverse of 1982 are not as close to the rim, and on the Reverse of 1977 does the R in PLURIBUS have the serif on the top left corner?
I have a box of nickels to go through, so I'll keep a lookout for this.
I do enjoy CONECA's ODV/RDV listings, even though they're for a couple of series, but it seems not much is paid attention to other denominations.
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01/16/2009 8:10 pm
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Thanks Flo ... The R in PLURIBUS is more plain on the one I am saying may be a 1977 reverse.
Good eye! My pictures are not so hot.
Let us know if you find any in your collection that raise this question for you too.
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No problem. The difference is slight. Like you said with the windows, the 1977 one has what tried to be a double line on the far right window (across the top and right of the window). And I agree with the dome.
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From what I have read the reverse of 1977 was used into 1982. So I think that is the reverse of 1977 as you have labeled. The steps where made thicker than the 1971 reverse. After 1979 master hub wear and die wear started to show on the coins as worn lettering and orange peel effect. In 1982 the only change that I have read was that the steps were modified to be sharper. This was used until 1987 when the reverse was re-engraved.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Wow, Thanks so much Yank! Is this information in a book or on the net?
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A Guide Book of Buffalo and Jefferson nickels is where I read it out of. It very well could be on the net I don't know. |
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It is covered in the Breen Encylopedia http://www. >> Report This Post Staff Please << 0com/page_longacres-trimes_267.html Edited by Conder101
01/19/2009 12:32 pm
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It's surprising that there has never been much interest in these.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Philly type I doesn't proof quite
elusive especially in high grades.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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You can also find info on the 1982 and info on full step nickels in the Jefferson nickel Analyst by Bernard A. Nagengast a must have book for searching full step nickels. Bruce. |
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Great Observation, Wheezy! As you know I look through a TON of nickels, but never noticed this at all. If you look at the two photos that you provided, it seems clear to me that the lower right serif of the final A in America is to the right of the porch of Monticello on the Reverse of 77, but is aligned with the edge of the porch on the Reverse of 82. This would counter the Mint's contention that only the steps were strengthened
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How nice of all of you to comment. I just have to pick up a copy of that Jefferson nickel Analyst by Bernard A. Nagengast. I've seen it many times for sale, and I should remember that every book I ever bought did pay for itself in the past. |
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As you know I look through a TON of nickels Speaking of that, did you ever find the 1950-D? Inquiring minds want to know.  |
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Currently at 7600 rolls; still no 50D!
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"it seems clear to me that the lower right serif of the final A in America is to the right of the porch of Monticello on the Reverse of 77, but is aligned with the edge of the porch on the Reverse of 82. This would counter the Mint's contention that only the steps were strengthened."
Hawkeye. Great observation. It makes a good PUP (pickup point).
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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01/18/2009 12:54 am
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Wheezy, what an interesting post! After reading this I pulled out my Nagengast book and read about the design changes. You are right. Among other changes, the letters were moved farther away from the rim on the reverse of 1982. I never knew this. Thanks! But that's not all! According to the book, the same is true for the obverse. Among other design strengthening changes, the letters were again moved farther away from the rim on the obverse of 1982. Wheezy, check out your obverses also!
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