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Which Centenary Of Federation 50 Cent Is Hardest To Find?

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The answer is ... ACT, by a long way!

Searched over 138 thousand 50 cent coins and found 905 Centenary of Federation 2001 state fifty cent coins. Here is the break down:

154 New South Wales
153 Victoria
142 Queensland (My home state)
101 Northern Territory
90 Tasmania
84 Norfolk Island
69 Western Australia
66 South Australia
46 ACT

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A pattern Cu-Ni 50 Cents die trial was made:
obverse:- generally the same design as the Centenary Of Federation, 50 Cents, but without legend,
reverse:- generally the same design of new Parliament house that is found on the NCLT Al-Br crown sized coin as issued to collectors, but without legend.

Less than 10 examples produced, now command $5 to $10 thousand at auction.
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Searched over 138 thousand 50 cent coins and found 905 Centenary of Federation 2001 state fifty cent coins. Here is the break down:

154 New South Wales 17%
153 Victoria 16.9%
142 Queensland (My home state) 15.7%
101 Northern Territory 11.2%
90 Tasmania 9.9%
84 Norfolk Island 9.3%
69 Western Australia 7.6%
66 South Australia 7.3%
46 ACT 5.1%


Interesting results MachinMachinMan ... statistically you would expect NSW (mintage-3 million) to be the most common and ACT (mintage-2 million) to be the scarcest but according to the figures below you would have anticipated a much higher strike rate for the ACT, all things being equal.

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you would have anticipated a much higher strike rate for the ACT, all things being equal


For some reason all things aren't equal when it comes to noodling. Until recently I had actually found more 1985 50c coins than ACT. And 2017 Mabo 50c seem to have totally dried up here in Brisbane.
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With a range of 5.1% to 17%, (ref. coaster), I suspect that there was an equal number of coins struck for each COF design.
Nevertheless,
would need to check RAM Mint Reports for both financial years 1987-88 and 1988-89 to confirm. Sometimes, dies that have not been used are eventually put into production.

Then, a more accurate assessment of numbers of coins issued into circulation vs proportions of numbers of coins found in circulation can be made.

I suspect that the variation of percentages after 36 years of issued vs found in circulation may be quite wide.
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I have found plenty of all the States but here in WA I gave up saving WA and NSW. Seemed to be the most popular here
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For some reason all things aren't equal when it comes to noodling. Until recently I had actually found more 1985 50c coins than ACT. And 2017 Mabo 50c seem to have totally dried up here in Brisbane.


Yes,i was into CoF Coins in a big way 20 years ago,local Teller used to save them for me plus normal noodling of 50c.
I couldn't believe the prices people were paying for individual Coins back then on ebay,A$4-10 was common but has levelled out these days.
I sold dozens,probably well over a hundred,i had a winfall for minimum work.
I was in Sydney at the time and the rarest 50c back then were the ACT & Norfolk Island.
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for me its ACT and WA or at least that what ive noticed
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Anyone found any CoF 50c lately?

I haven't seen a single state design in months.

Wonder how long before they become extinct in the wild.
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It is not impossible to get an example from pocket change, of just about all commemorative designs of all denominations that have been released inti circulation since 1966.

However, you will need a lot of patience extending over perhaps more than a five year period. I have achieved just this, with two of the best examples over about a five year time frame.

My collecting technique was to fill a two liter jar with any interesting design that came my way from pocket change, without closely examining any of them. About 5% or less of the coins that passed through my hands were taken from circulation in this way.
When the jar was full, I set about getting the two best examples of every commemorative design I could find, across all denominations. Triplicates or more were released back into circulation.

The collection remains active, as new designs including painted Two Dollar coins, are continued to be issued into circulation.
All obtained at face value.

Thus far, my collection comprises about 400 coins in two duplicate sets.
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Anyone found any CoF 50c lately?


Yes,they are still around,local TAB manager keeps them(and other non CoA.years) for me,i get 3-4 each week,some are nearly Unc. so taken out of a draw/jar to spend.

I don't noodle much anymore but they are getting scarce in general circulation.
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I still see them from time to time but I don't normal check 50c rolls so I don't think I've had one in a while.
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