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2015 Louisiana Kisatchie Quarter Errors?

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Hello. I'm brand new to the group, so please forgive my fumbling in advance. Lol.
I came across a 2015 quarter while counting out some change the other day, a d instantly noticed (felt) that something wasn't right with it. Most obvious is its thickness. Its thicker than a normal quarter. The edge all the way around is smooth, and it's got a clear separation line of copper/nickel that looks to be a out a 50/50 split...
I basically know nothing a out coin errors, or collecting, so I'm hoping you here that are far more knowledgeable than I can shed some light on what I found. Sure would appreciate it!
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 Posted 10/29/2021  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dryer coin.
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 Posted 10/29/2021  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When for a spin in the dryer. The longer the ride, the more the edge spreads out:
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I'm a fabricator/ welder by trade, so I k ow a fair amount a out metallurgy and characteristics in workability of metals and alloys... the edge of this coin has absolutley NO gauling on it like the " Dryer Coins". It is very smooth and even.
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 Posted 10/29/2021  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just put it on top of a regular quarter, if the diameter is smaller, it is an early stage Dryer Coin.
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 Posted 10/29/2021  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either way it's PMD, there's no way for this to happen at the mint.

I'm willing to bet you have a pair of calipers or mics, if you measure the diameter of it versus a normal quarter you will find that it's smaller.
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We see a fair number of these here, so we know the stages of Dryer Coins. Please believe us, yours is a early stage Dryer Coin. It's post mint damage, not an error coin, sorry.

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Too, the coin may have been spooned. Google 'spooned coin'.
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ijn hit it right, spooned. Oh and
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Ok y'all, inappricate thebrwaponses in general, but one more person tells me to Google " Dryer Coin" or Spooned coin I'm gonna snap and lose 100+ IQ points... seriously gentlemen, I've seen Dryer Coins in old areas of Los Angels where almost every poor neighborhood dis their laundry in a 'mat... but those couns only came from machines that did not have tight drum, spindle, door, bushing, etc clearances. Have not seen one since my childhood around neighborhoods with such worn out laundromat equipment that a basketball put in the tumbler of a dryer could not only make it's way between to the grinder, it could at times make it all the way outside across the street to the park, and up into the basketball net... to make fun of my severe dislike of basketball and inability to fake enough intrest to play,
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@Adam E,
I hate to point south your self contraindication, but you gotta decide which of your posts is the truth!
You said that this quarter is la" Dryer Coin" and that there is no possible way that the damage/defects could have happened at the mint"...
You sure about that?
What if the edge of the coun was struck repeatedly, literally millions and millions of times over generations handing it down over hundreds of years...Possible?

And the big question to clear up your absolute assertion that there is NO POSSIBlE WAY the edge could have been deformed like that at the ment...
Well by reduction of information already posted and not disagreed with, it has been agreed upon that 2 different ways for this damage to have occurred exist! Do they not?
One- the dryerrotational edge press.
Two- the ultimate forge hammer, the spoon.
So we have rotational application of constant force, which I am as sure as I can be. Cannot cause this completely smooth,even edge.. let alone the lamination line between the core and the plate. In this area my metallurgy education and lifetime of shaping almost all known naturally occurring metals and man designed alloys, Trumps your coin collecting

But I digress, to sum up my windy reply here is like to ask you (and the group) one hypothetical question, ok?

If the edge of my coin can only be created by 1-rotational press, or...
Two- multiple minuscule impacts... BUT, "CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE DAMAGE FROM THE MINT"
If I enter the simple words us quarter made us mint, in a YouTube search bar, I will 8instantly be bombarded by dozens of videos showing masses of quarters rolling sliding and banging around down and across convertor belts.
So are thousands of quarters on. aconveror bely heavy? Yes, of course...
Of let's grab logic, critical thinking, and plausibility here, stuff em all in our backpacks, and get down to some real talk...
NO MATTER the Likelyhood, there exists SEVERAL Enviroments in the us mints production facilities for quarter dollars, to be trapped between a conveyor belt, and the steel (most likely 316h grade stainless steel surface that this belt rides on... is that not a perfectly CORRECT observation to make, considering our established facts to this point, and video evidence direct from the mint itseld?

And I will touch on the greedy, inconsiderate Quarters wild antics at the single file area of the stamping die... I mean come on! What's all the shoving about! Y'all are Americans and should act better than heathens!!!
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QMFB. Here is what I can tell you with 100% certainty. This damage happened AFTER the coin was struck, not before. Coins are struck with a certain clearance between the dies, if this happened before the coin were struck those edges would have been crushed, and if the clearance was off you wouldn't see any design on the two faces of the coin. I don't know how you can fathom the coin retaining the edges when it's clear the coin was fully struck. Coins are also struck with a collar die, that restricts the metal flow to the diameter of the coin and adds the reeding. If the coin was struck WITHOUT a collar die, the ONLY way for a coin to LOSE it's reeding, the coin would expand BEYOND die diameter of a normal quarter, not RETRACT.

Is it theoretically possible that this coin got stuck in the mint's machinery for 6 years before somehow making its way into circulation and into your hands? Sure, it's possible. Did this happen to your quarter? Given the fact that this quarter is very clearly circulated almost certainly not. Does it matter? No. A coin damaged by the mint after being struck makes it a damaged coin, not an error. I'm not sure what you think you're proving by pointing out this technicality, because it changes absolutely nothing.

It seems pretty clear that you're not going to take the unanimous advice of the dozens of years of combined experience the people who responded to you have, you should send it in to a professional grading service to have it attributed. I suggest ANACS, they're an affordable service and have a good error team. Good luck.
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Look around the entire edge of your coin and see if you see a "choke point", it may be small but it will be raise and perpendicular to the edge of the coin.

I may be wrong but this reminds of another thread, where it was a bezel or similar devise that created this. Still PMD though.

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I basically know nothing a out coin errors, or collecting,


Your words, but yet you argue with people who have seen literally hundreds of these. I myself have seen thousands. We see them almost on a weekly basis here. (If these coins were truly errors, they would be by far the most common on the planet.)

Oh... and forget about youtube. Trying to learn there will do you much more harm than good, those people go all out for hype to make money from them, most of them won't let the facts get in the way of earning money.

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