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Hello, I came across this coin and noticed the double 1 and 8 on the date. What I am trying to confirm is does this mean that it IS and L? Since the coin is worn the L would not be visible. Or is this a double die / other error? Kinda new to IHCs, and would love opinions. Thanks! Enz   
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Yes it is the L. That can be determined by the pointed bust vs. the rounded bust. The RPD is an added bonus
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Nice find it's a Rick Snow # S2 can't tell if it's the a or b die due to the wear on the edge. I can almost make out the tip of the scratch under the 4 extending into the field, how is it in hand? From Rick's book Vol. 1 page 250: 
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Edited by westcoin 11/04/2021 12:10 pm
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Nice find! 
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Rest in Peace
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To me it's not an exact match to the S2 
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Great thanks everyone. @BigSilver - Thanks for the info on the pointed vs rounded bust. That is what makes it the L - not the doubled 1 an 8. It seems from my research though any RPDs I found from 1864 are also a L...
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dave700x I was thinking it's not quite there too, but I chalked it up to wear, though Rick's books does say counterfeits are known of this variety, so...
Though I would expect any counterfeits to not have this degree of wear, I would think a fake would be done for the RPD and be more modern, but who knows?
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Quote: @BigSilver - Thanks for the info on the pointed vs rounded bust. That is what makes it the L - not the doubled 1 an 8. It seems from my research though any RPDs I found from 1864 are also a L... Absolutely, anything with this exact RPD would also be automatically be an L. I was pointing out that even if it weren't for the RPD we would be able to know that it is the L variety.
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Quote: Tanman2001: Are we sure it's Snow-2 and not Snow-1? (I think it's Snow-1) Still with L. Now that I look at it more closely, I believe you are correct, I see the die crack at the bottom of the AM the reverse die crack at 11:30 and 2:30 the date aligns better in regards to the repunch. By jove, I think it is the S1 a VERY rare variety! 
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I didn't even notice the upper flag of the 1 was not close enough to the bust point to be an S2. I was merely comparing the spread of the double 1 and 8. S1 it is. Congrats to the OP!!!
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Thats cool, I was checking my rpd 1864-L to the thankful page snapshots to compare to mine, and I have the S2b die stage B type  .
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