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2018 Cent With Clashing? Help Coop!

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I have this 2018 Shield Cent with what appears to be some type of clashing, especially on the reverse along with Die Deterioration I think. I took these pictures with my microscope and the resolution is quite low so I apologize for the picture quality, they are the best I can do. Any thoughts of what I am seeing here?
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 Posted 11/17/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a stained coin.
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 Posted 11/17/2021  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No die clashing here and we definitely don't need the doctor's opinion on this one. This zinc cent has seen better days and is basically worthless. But still worth 1 cent...
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 Posted 11/18/2021  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it is a really ugly coin and staining certainly is an issue but there is more going on than just the staining. I am mainly concentrating on the reverse. The dark spots at the top of the shield almost look like molten puddles with slag. The scroll where the O of ONE CENT is should not have a line through the center of the O. On the right side of the shield there is a line which runs through the scroll, through the designer initials and back to the lower shield where it continues back up through the E of ONE. My first thought was glue or adhesive so I gave it a long soak in acetone and since it couldn't be damaged any more than it already is, I even scrubbed it with a tooth brush before taking my poor quality pictures. The line on the scroll going through the O is in relief. The other faint outlines I am seeing are hard to tell if they are incuse or relief even when tilting the coin. Perhaps you are right with just staining because I would expect to see the clashed images from the hammer die like an overlay instead of what my mind is imagining as a portrait which wouldn't belong. and I'm not really seeing and design transfer on the obverse, just staining.
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Hopefully I can provide some insight and answer the questions you have. The molten puddles you see are most likely part of the staining. In fact, based on the coin's condition, it's also likely that it's general muck and gunk that has accumulated from being out in the environment. Personally, I'd avoid touching it. The line you see through the O is an indent within the staining. Oftentimes when you have multiple layers of staining, indents or marks occur, but are then covered by another layer of muck, making it look like it's on the surface of the coin when it isn't. The line that runs through the scroll is what you would call a die scratch. They are common and don't have a premium. Either that, or it's simply another mark within the staining.

However if there was minor die clashing on the coin, (which I do not see based on these photos), the coin is so covered that it still would not carry a premium, and in my opinion, wouldn't fully be worth keeping.

I hope I was able to provide some useful information.
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Probably a cup holder coin.
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Thanks Folks, The more I study this piece of garbage the more likely I am to agree that it is simply staining. Errors are not my field of expertise and I have to remind myself of the minting process with how different errors can and cannot occur. The raised line within the O is likely a die crack or scratch as you have mentioned and should have been my first clue to disregard clashing simply because it is raised. Sometimes the mind sees things on a coin especially when it is enlarged to the size of an ashtray, that simply do not nor can not exist. Thank you all for your input.
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 Posted 11/18/2021  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok.... You got me on that one Dearborn!
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And with all that, appears to be a hint of obverse die deterioration--emergence of a Ridge Ring, maybe.
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Pretty much a dud. With the coin stains, it makes it hard to tell from images what was going on with this coin. When they look like something you wouldn't by, then toss them back into circulation.
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I agree with all of the above, but if you didn't ask, you wouldn't learn! Keep searching!
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