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1944 Mercury Dime

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here is a nice Mercury dime for you to test your grading skills on. it is currently in a PCGS holder. Test your skills and tomorrow I will reveal its grade. there is slight toning on both sides of the coin. good luck. my second favorite coin


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The luster looks flat on the obverse, but I think that may be due to the lighting and holder. Contact marks look very minimal. I'd say MS64 if the luster is better on the obverse than it appears.
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I'd say MS63.
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since it is a Pcgs case I would say ms62 maybe ms63
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MS-63

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Nice try all of you. but heres the answer....


MS65 It has very nice luster on both sides. its an overall nice coin.
here are the pics which aint the best but here they are....
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Well there ya go !!! an MS-63 slabbed as a 65 !!!

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I have to agree with you, Rick. I said MS64 because it was stated that the coin was in a PCGS holder and I added a point for that. I see it as an MS63 coin also.
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Im not a very skilled grader so will you fill me in on your reasons for saying this is a ms63 graded 65? it only has one mark(scratch,abbrasion,nick,etc) and that is on the obverse by the Y in liberty. it is a very lustrous coin on both sides and from what I can tell there is no wear. So whats your reasons

No matter wether its 63 OR 65 its still a great coin to me I'm just curious here
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Hi Demonboy

I was hoping you would ask this question !!

I agree that it is a very pretty coin !! and for sure nothing to be ashamed of,, PCGS has done you a favor by slabbing this coin as a 65 though.

My reasoning is one of experiance with this coin series,, but I will use the PCGS grading guide to simplify the process.

PCGS grading guide says this about an MS-65 coin,,Minor marks though NONE in the focal areas, the coin will have an above average strike.

Now that little nick is not a big deal and the coin could possibly grade as a 65 with it alone, but !!!! combine that with the strike on the coin,, we can use the reverse since it is the most notable strike problem for this particular coin,, look at the center of the facses sticks.. Ignoreing the center bands,, look at the center stick, do you see the flatness on this stick and some even spreading both east and west especially just below the center bands? that is a weakness in the strike of this coin, the obverse has similar weakness although not as noticeable but the curls on the forehead, and the lower wing feathers.


Now this is what PCGS says for an MS-63,, Moderate number/size marks/hairlines and the strike may not be full.

Thus my determination of an MS-63 for this coin.

Hope this helps you to understand,, it really is not that uncommon to find disagreement with grades of slabbed coins even those of the top tier companies,, and it is no way a push at you personally!!

Check out the reverse of this 1917, it is also a 63 but for reasons other than strike problems.

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Thanks for the information. I know its not anything against me I have no problem with you grading it less. its just your honest opinion and I respect that.
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and btw its just not a great image. the strike is a pretty sharp strike. although its not the sharpest its better than shown.
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