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What's Your Opinion On This 1812 Large Cent

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 Posted 11/29/2021  10:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What problems do you see and how would you grade it?

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 Posted 11/29/2021  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-20 details scratched. The scratch on the reverse is a distraction, but there is a chance a TPG may let it slide. It has very good eye appeal, and a rare coin to have uncorroded! This is a WOW coin for me!
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 Posted 11/29/2021  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add McFinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and important year for history. I'm very much a rookie for any attempt with grading, but my guess would be F15 or VF20 - FWIW
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 Posted 11/29/2021  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF20. The gouge above the N appears old and my get a pass but there are several marks that appear fresh and may not.
All in all a pleasing example that would be a very respectable addition to a 7070 album.
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 Posted 11/29/2021  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with VF details, scratched, but it is possible it could grade VF-20 problem-free. Smooth surfaces, even dark-toned copper color, and absence of corrosion are positive attributes. This piece is far superior to most Classic cents that are offered for sale.
Nice one!
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 Posted 11/29/2021  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have it ID'ed as an S-288, Rarity-2.

As for grade, IMO it's VF-20 or -25, straight grade (not Details).
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This is probably going to cost you based on the nice planchet preservation. If paying that kind of money I would hold off for one without the scratches regardless of how it ends up grading out. Who cares what the third party grader says? The scratches will still be there.
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I'd say VF-25. The shallow gouge on the reverse may get a pass.
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I paid $440 for it. I've been looking at ebay and graded coins with this details are priced much higher. Even with the scratch I like the overall look of it and the fact there's no corrosion. I'm not planning on getting it graded since it's going in my type set. So rather than paying a higher price for a graded coin off ebay I decided this is worth it and it's from a dealer I can trust. The dealer did have another coin without scratches but the obverse had less details than this cent.
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Seems like you made a reasoned choice. Congrats on your new addition to the set.
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I have it ID'ed as an S-288, Rarity-2.


Thank you for that info.
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Great price, and grading it will preserve it for a longer amount of time. Keep us updated to what the TPG says!
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The gouge is not at all fatal and even lends a little character. It's a wonderful coin, probably VF20.
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These Classic head large cents don't grow on trees. I really like it regardless of any minor problems. Wonderful type coin for the not perfect type set. I wouldn't be surprised if it got VF25.
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It is overall a nice old copper. The gash is visible but not offensive. Nice, hard surfaces, but I would like to see what the actual color is for a better assessment.
The grade would be VF20, net F15 EAC (in my opinion).
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decent planchet for this series. obv VF20 rev VF30. net VF25
the hit on the reverse most likely would details the coin as it displaces metal
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