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1960 Lincoln, Thought Dbl Eye, Not, But Saw Other Stuff, Help!

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 Posted 12/14/2021  10:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
Been awhile for me here, I came across a few coins I missed adding to my collection. This one caught my eye, no pun intended, but I thought it might have had a double eyebrow. But now I don't.
While taking a closer look at the coin overall I'm wondering if there's some doubling. I was guessing MD, but I thought I could see some double serifs.
So instead of guessing I thought I'd ask you all to take a look, and I'll go with whatever you say!

I have a second coin, but will post it separately.

Thank you for your time!

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Thanks again, I'll post this coin now and start on my second coin and question.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bumpkin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a normal large date 1960 Lincoln. The reverse is showing MD with what also looks like Die Deterioration Doubling atop United States.
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12/15/2021 09:26 am
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 Posted 12/15/2021  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When looking for a doubled die, look at the centers of the devices, not on the outsides/insides devices. That is where you find Machine Doubling. That is what you are seeing on your finds.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, Machine Doubling. And please, no screen shots of your monitor. Photograph directly, please.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I agree, Machine Doubling. And please, no screen shots of your monitor. Photograph directly, please.


Thanks, my question now is, as you can see from my full coin direct pictures, it's not clear enough with my IPad to show the detail that the microscope displaying onto my full size monitor shows. How am I to show you the details that only my microscope shows?

Much love to you all, Merry Christmas!
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 Posted 12/16/2021  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But the devices are not enlarged like a spread from a doubled die would show. All the areas you are looking at are showing the removal of the devices contour on that area. What Machine Doubling looks like on all coins. When you look at the outside/inside edges of the devices Machine Doubling will show there even on a doubled die:
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Note these are date images from 4 different big DDO for that year. Note the dates are all doubled in size? Then note the yellow areas. They are all affected In the same direction, differently on each strike. All doing the same thing. Removing the contour part of that area. Machine Doubling is cause by the machine. A doubled die is cause by the enlarging on the dies. One is common, one is rare. The premiums are on the doubled dies, the Machine Doubling is not the same thing. It is causing damage to the devices, This happened a lot on the 1968-1972 cents. Very common to find this.
1. Always on the outside/inside edges of the devices.
2. Always showing a removal of the contour that side of the devices..
3. Always caused by the machine differently from strike to strike.
4. When you look at these areas of the devices, you will find it, but it is a waste of time. Look for the spread in the center of the devices:
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Note that when you are looking at side by sides, they doubling is seen on the centers of the devices. (Not on the outside edges of the devices)
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If you look at the outside/inside edges for a doubled die, you spinning your wheels. Look at the centers of the devices. Also good to look at the listing on the sites to train your eyes on what to look for on those years. Grasp at something definite and not just looking for Machine Doubling. Train your eyes on what to look for on doubled dies.
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