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Valued Member
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Also I apologize for the general photo quality, I'm getting the diffused lighting down but now it messes with my focusing lol I promise I'm working on it, I'll be good at it some day!
Edited by Yorkish 12/19/2021 9:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It kinda looks like some Die Deterioration going on from worn out dies; this phenomenon can look strange at times.
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Valued Member
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@mrwhatsit I definitely think that's what is happening in the IGWT, I just wasn't convinced about the rest of it. Especially where it's so consistent across the rest of the lettering on the obverse. Mind if I pick your brain for a minute? What makes you say it looks like Die Deterioration? Purely to help my get better at this stuff of course.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Machine Doubling may be in the mix as well. I'm getting tired tonight, was up early, so my vision acuity may be playing tricks.
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@ijn 100% most of the doubling in IGWT is some form of Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration, it's too flat and shelf life to be anything else as far as I can tell. The inner upper left hand corners of the BER in LIBERTY (and the leftmost side of the E) were actually what got me looking harder at it. They're indented quite far, in the same pattern and at the same angle, but there's no visible drop in the devices from what I can see. What else might account for that?
Edited by Yorkish 12/19/2021 10:05 pm
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I do not think it is a rotated hub issue. Looks like MD and or DDD and maybe an over abraded die issue. John1 
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Pillar of the Community
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How I envision Die Deterioration Doubling, is when a certain die strikes up so many coins during its lifetime, it starts producing sharp, well defined coins Later strikes start to show more and more die fatigue until the die breaks apart, but the mint workers usually replace the die before that happens.
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They also polish (abrade) dies a few times before replacing them. John1 
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I appreciate the info and insight everyone, thank you.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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A rotated hub would create a doubled die. This is not a doubled die. Just extreme die wear and also on the motto on the right side of the devices that is Machine Doubling.
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I agree with MD. I think DDD shows the wear pattern moving towards the rim.
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