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1863 IHC - Grease Filled Die Or What?

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I'm thinking the loss of the tops of the feathers in the head dress are a result of dirt, grease, or something else on the surface of the die.

My reasoning: There is just too much detail on both the obverse and reverse to attribute it to wear. Also, the letters OF are faint, and the A in AMERICA is ghostly.

I'd like to get some opinions on this one.

Thanks much.

Ralph


1863-IHC---Grease-Filled-Die-Or-What?

1863-IHC---Grease-Filled-Die-Or-What?
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 Posted 01/24/2009  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks very possible.
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The surrounding feather tips suggest that to me as well.
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 Posted 01/25/2009  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is, and it's rather common.
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Most likely grease. the adjacent areas also show the lack of detail, which is typical of the "struck thru grease" appearance. IMHO
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 Posted 07/31/2009  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is somewhat common on these copper nickel cents and is usually the result of the metal being difficult to strike. The fact that there is some weakness in the lettering near the feather tips indicates to me that it is a combination of a typical weak strike and grease.
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 Posted 08/03/2009  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what coppercoins said.

Agreed, very common.
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08/14/2009 08:54 am
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I am sorry but I have to disagree! I may be wrong but due to the same problems on the Wreath on the Reverse and in pretty much the same general area (in correlation with) as the Obverse, I would say that it was the result of a tapered planchet (i.e. the planchet is much thicker on the strong strike side and much, much thinner on the weak strike side).


Frank

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08/04/2009 11:29 pm
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I don't think that is the case. There is no evidence of heavy polishing, due to a heavy die clash having occured. In that case the area that seems to be "struck thru" would have the face of the die polished down to such an extent that it "might", but only very lightly affect the devices... I have to go with the "struck-thru' theory.
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Yes, put me down for struck-through grease, too; that's definitely not wear.
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Whatever the cause, it's definately not wear.
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Frank (Huntsman) I have to disagree with you.


If it was a tapered planchet, the edge would be very weak also.
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