The Art Of Grading A Lincoln Cent From 1909 Until 2021 Please Need Opinions

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grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 12/31/2021 6:14 pm There are a dozen or more members who faithfully try to help me with grading Lincoln cents and I really want you to weigh in whether I want to hear it, for better or worse. 1. The art of grading is tough and fluctuates true or false? 2. Pictures can only go so far too many things can be altered with filters and adjustments. Agree or disagree? 3. Luster and marketability play an important role. Yea or nay? 4. Scratches, marks, hits, year of coin (more recent coins graded a little stricter) hairlines and scuff marks all factor in a grade. yes, or no? 5. Mood of grader can affect the grade. Agree or disagree? 6. Number of coins at a certain grade level already makes a grader hesitate to give a higher grade and makes a grade above 66+ much harder to achieve. This one is tough to decide 7. If the number of 67 grades rise, values decrease since more are available. yes, or no? 8 Receiving a 68 grade is next to impossible on a business strike and gets scrutinized by every would-be grader out there. 9. 69 or 70 is almost unheard of just for the fact they are handled differently than a proof. Business strikes have to touch something and are only struck once therefore not enough detail. agree or disagree? 10. A grader decides he doesn't like that particular tone regardless of quality of coin hence lower grade. yes or no. LAST almost all coins receiving a 68 grade did not receive that on the first try. No grader wants to be known for over-grading (even the 1919 famous Lincoln Cent had to be submitted more than once) All I read on the forum is too many hits, picture is deceiving, luster is not there or can't tell from picture. That's why I love coming to the forum! Did I miss something? In my case, please keep hammering away, it opens my eyes to a lot of things. If the good lord is willing and I do submit something that grades high, I will post it over and over LOL Most of you liked the 1954-s and I am yet to find point deductions (I am sure there are some) compared to PCGS pictured coins, that's encouraging. Find one of the above and tell me how you feel. Boy I feel better now. Edited by grospoisson 01/01/2022 08:12 am Report this Post to the Staff

silverwolf Pillar of the Community Canada 3733 Posts	Posted 12/31/2021 6:28 pm the simple fact that a resubmitted coin to the same grading company can achieve a different grade the second or third time around, should speak volumes.. Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 12/31/2021 7:01 pm Grading is subjective. Many factors play into opinion of the final grade such as overall mood, tastes and preferences, and personal experience of the grader. Culture can also affect grades of coins. For these reasons plus more, I personally have not tried to play the game and get the grade I want. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19155 Posts	Posted 12/31/2021 9:03 pm Please, keep in mind you have 'the coin' in-hand and can view it from a multitude of angles under a variety of light sources. All we have to look at are digital images--we can't take the coin to a window and view it under a 2X glass using indirect natural lighting, we can't slowly rotate it under a spot lamp and ponder what may or may not be present. We only have devices with digital displays (those displays/screens having a wide variety of characteristics). If possible, attend a future ANA national conference/convention and attend sessions on grading. Sit up-front and ask questions. Be persistent. Report this Post to the Staff
Tenring Valued Member United States 82 Posts	Posted 12/31/2021 11:43 pm I think you already know the answers to the first 5 questions. They're more like statements than questions. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 01/01/2022 05:06 am Questions 7 and 8: Pristine coins broken out of non proof specimen sets or mint sets can be far more common than what their grade may indicate. We all need be aware of this. Also applies to ASE's etc. Minting technology is improving on a continuous basis. Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 01/01/2022 08:36 am Quote: If possible, attend a future ANA national conference/convention and attend sessions on grading. Sit up-front and ask questions. Be persistent. Very, very GOOD AND SOUND ADVICE! I am persistent and I know from personal experience that a post can't truly express what a member is trying to tell me. I am talking about the readers' interpretation of statement. Some long-time members want to tell me just look it up yourself. New members join the forum very often and veteran members have new experiences that alter their opinion. Fresh insight to old questions can't be all bad? My occupation allows me to start fresh every year and I alter presentations according to what worked the year before, which still may fall flat again! Mathematically there is a finite number of questions that can be presented (albeit that number is high). How often does this happen to people? They are having a discussion and when it's over for a while, they say to themselves "boy I wish I would have said this or that" while the discussion was going on. ANYWAY I am not one for long trips, but I am so determined to learn how to do this. This would have to be a weeklong planned trip and expensive. With that in mind, I still want to do it. Our new round of covid may slow my progress. Members tell me over and over it's a losing game (submitting) and not worth my time (this gives me pause). I have lived by the thought process that NOTHING in this world is that hard after someone shows you how to do it (maybe several times). Physical limitations are not taken into account, I am talking mentally. Eventually this may be my new career as a grader for PCGS lol. PCGS is always looking for new graders. It's posted all over their website. It's the subjective part that a person will have the hardest time to master. If it's even possible. I figure PCGS and NGC have done the best job in promoting their product. I think there are good graders at lower tier companies. Edited by grospoisson 01/01/2022 08:58 am Report this Post to the Staff
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