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Ebay Removing My 1948 Silver Dollars Due To Them Being Counterfeit - Help!

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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Andy888 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi y'all, I'm having an issue with ebay removing three of my listings for 1948 silver dollars that they have deemed counterfeit. The coins are most definitely authentic. I've spoken with someone 7 times over the past month about appealing their opinion and have gotten nowhere. As many of the true Canadian coin experts frequent this forum, I'm wondering if anyone knows someone who works with ebay on counterfeits or if someone has dealt with the appeal process in the past?

Here is one of the 1948's they removed:

Ebay-Removing-My-1948-Silver-Dollars-Due-To-Them-Being-Counterfeit---Help!
Ebay-Removing-My-1948-Silver-Dollars-Due-To-Them-Being-Counterfeit---Help!

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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the price of the 1948 dollar why not spend a little and get them graded by ICCS or another TPG? I'm not good at judging counterfeit coins but if they are authentic this one would easily be AU and worth well over 1000$, so grading is pennies compared to that. If it comes back straight graded MS your looking at a very expensive coin.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's because your infringing on the "Coins of Canada" copyright.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.

Here's a related thread from the past:
http://goccf.com/t/54047
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 Posted 01/02/2022  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Must be another issue as that pictured coin is absolute
Genuine!
DBM might be on to something .
Or someone out there is having fun reporting
coins they know nothing about .
Has happened before !
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 Posted 01/02/2022  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much did you list it for?
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 Posted 01/02/2022  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did ebay say they were being removed for being counterfeit or are you just surmising that.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby brings up a very valid question, as ebay deems coins over a certain amount need to be certified (by one of the verified ebay certification companies) to list them.

I believe that amount is $1000 if they haven't changed the rules yet again, (I saw they had sent me a changes to their user agreement, and I haven't gone over it yet, as I'm not currently listing stuff).
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 Posted 01/02/2022  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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You cannot list a raw coin over $2500.00 US unless it has been certified
by one of the 4 ebay accepted graders
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 Posted 01/02/2022  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw this coin listed again I think it was for just under 4 grand. I'll check again.
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Yup, price is too high for uncertified. Trust me, if you continue to try it, they will boot you. 224768735274
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 Posted 01/02/2022  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get them certified by ICCS.....that's a good rule by ebay......As a seasoned collector, I'm always wary of any high value coin that isn't certified. To me, that's a Red Flag.
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I didn't actually know that, I regularly see the odd listing for 1000-200,000$ on ebay for un certified coins. So there is a rule no coin over 1000$ can be in certified?
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$2500
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 Posted 01/02/2022  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy888 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the help y'all. Since its impossible to speak with anyone at ebay who has the ability to explain things, I am making the assumption that the $2500 max value rule for uncertified coins is the reason my coins were removed and that their claim of "counterfeit item" is an general term they use whenever they remove a coin for any reason. Interestingly, the ebay.ca website which is where I list all of my items since I am located in Canada, makes no mention of the $2500 rule in the verbiage of their "Collectible Currency Policy." The ebay.com does:


https://www.ebay.ca/help/policies/p...licy?id=4337

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/...licy?id=4337
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 Posted 01/02/2022  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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....Since its impossible to speak with anyone at ebay who has the ability to explain things, I am making the assumption that the $2500 max value rule for uncertified coins is the reason my coins were removed and that their claim of "counterfeit item" is an general term they use whenever they remove a coin for any reason.....


At least you know why they were removed. I never would have guessed those pieces were that valuable.

And you are correct that many sellers list raw coins over $2,500 and those too would be removed if caught.

Here's a 1948 $1 in PCGS 66 for $70k USD! Holy splashdown Batman!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154540592226
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