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Thoughts Please On The Grade On This 1890 Newfoundland Dime

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Beautiful toning but grade?
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Nice looking coin
EF details
scratches
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I'd say that's an EF-40....bit of a knife wound on the queen's neck but I doubt that's particularly visible without significant mag.....
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XF-40 with scratches, as mentioned above.
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Very nice look for the grade. Due to the scratches, I couldn't say any better than E45 and maybe held to EF40 because of them.

Regardless, I bet its beautiful in hand. Nice coin!

Did you notice the double 0 in 10? Yours is the Borselino Type I variety - High "90", Repunched "18"

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Thanks all seems to be a consensus on grade . Did not notice the high 9 re punch 0 and didn't know there were varieties.
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At present only varieties listed in Charlton's command any premium.
For this date there are none listed.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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...the double 0 in 10...

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...re punch 0...
Not necessarily the same thing.
This is how spurious varieties gain traction.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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If you read Barry Borselino's work on NL varieties you will see that there are many varieties that the Charelton doesn't recognize. Barry's study came after the Charleton and although many of the varieties he has identified are too subtle and will never be recognized in the field, there are also many that should be recognized, such as the 1945 5 cent narrow vs wide date. Same with the coin shown above as there are two distinct varieties with a high or low 0 in 1890. These examples can be identified without magnification and therefore should be recognized as varieties, because they are.
But who can do that? Who can write the Charleton editors and suggest these things?
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Agreed completely with @The Deductible - Borselino's book is well ahead of Charlton and the data (and POP reports) is very solid. Some of the varieties are working their way into the Trends however. The 1945 narrow date 5c for example, is in there. And as I understand, the 1876 wide date 1c is as well. Many of the varieties that Barry has identified are likely of limited interest - I'm sure Barry would agree...he defines A, B C and D level varieties with the A level being the ones that are most of interest....
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Anyone interested in NFL 20 cent coins I am listing a few on ebay soon. 1890 1904 1912 and a 1919 quarter .
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