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1999 P Connecticut Quarter Looks To Be A DDR.

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 Posted 01/05/2022  5:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I decided to take a break from Lincolns and work on the State Quarters for my better half's album. A believer in saving the best for last I took on the worst first. The dreaded oak tree!
I have indicated the areas of interest and if you feel like racking your brain, please have a gander. The best I could come up with is WDDR-05 or WDDR-06. The location is correct but no precise match I can see. But I feel sure the doubling is there.
Tell me what you think.
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
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 Posted 01/05/2022  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If not damage, then it might be doubling or perhaps a die clash. Here is a link to an old thread where a similar coin was discussed:

http://goccf.com/t/333521
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 Posted 01/05/2022  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback Spence. The one you referenced looks like 001. Someone must have one laying around to compare to.
No big deal. I see some doubling on those branches, yet since it has not been attributed already I am sure I must be mistaken.
These Connecticuts drive me crazy.
I was hoping someone out there knew the nitty gritty on these aggravating varieties.
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I'm still of the opinion that these are die clashes.
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I cannot do overlays to even say. Perhaps someone can. As I said, it sure looks different than the other 90 or so I compared. Clash Perhaps, but not PMD, agreed?
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 Posted 01/05/2022  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah definitely not PMD.
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 Posted 01/06/2022  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought I would add a couple of images of a normal strike for comparison. The first image is of the original coin in question to assist in isolating the areas of interest.
The second image is normal strike to the right of the main tree trunk, and second image to the left of main trunk.
I am hoping to be as concise as possible so that no one has to wander through all of these crazy branches.
The reverse should have depicted on the oak during the summer months to make it less complicated, especially when the central area requires the most scrutiny on these varieties. LOL. I am convinced it was intentional to drive searchers nuts!
Hope this helps to generate some further opinions.
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
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 Posted 01/06/2022  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, where are you? No opinion here? Am I seeing images in the clouds? Anyone?
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 Posted 01/07/2022  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm here. When taking images of this tree, try to keep it lever. But I think I already have created an answer back a few days ago. It involves the Feeder Finger Damage on this design:
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
I made overlay with two different colors so you could sort out what is FFD and what is normal design. Hoe this helps. The gray areas are the FFD.
(How did he do that?) Is probably the next question on every ones mind?
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01/07/2022 6:22 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2022  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the insight Coop, but I am having a hard time making a correlation between the examples you submitted and this coin. Perhaps you could enhance the images I provide to better illustrate.
As far as what I have digested by you and other members, Feeder Finger Damage would be oriented in one direction across the coin.
This does not seem to be the case here. Perhaps my images do not provide a clear perspective on my observations and I would be happy to attempt better views if deemed necessary.
I attempted to level the images as best I could and indicate with red dots the location and the primary areas of interest.
As there are attributed varieties that occur in the same area of the reverse as this example that replicates the effects of single squeeze hub doubling and the many die pairs used during production, I thought perhaps this might be an unattributed example.
A clash is not diffinitive, yet suggested,as well as feeder finger does not appear to be a diffiative explanation.
I know that is difficult to isolate the area of my observations on this particular headache quarter but I have tried my best. Any suggestions are welcome to help lead to a more diffinitive conclusion.
As stated earlier it seems similar to and in the same location as 005 and 006 yet different.
It is really no big deal. But just trying to hone my eye.
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 Posted 01/08/2022  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lower image I posted, you can see the scrape lines better than the first one. I'm pretty sure yours is not a die clash, but let me pull up/create an overlay to see if that is any help first.
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
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01/08/2022 4:51 pm
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Thanks. Awaiting your reply.
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The overlays took longer than I thought. (too many branches) See if anything matches up, but I doubt is will though. Looks like your die was polished. The branches are not as tall as they normal devices. Also the EPU looks smaller? So there may have been a feeder finger issue. (they won't all look the same as the damage of the strike on the fingers could be in different locations on the fingers:
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
Sometimes they get even cut off the fingers.
1999-P-Connecticut--Quarter-Looks-To-Be-A-DDR.
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