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Update! Weighed In At 5.50 Grams 1967 Quarter Bronze? Tone Both Sides

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I don't want to abuse the privilege of posting here but would appreciate help on this one. Tried to post this last week from my cell phone but that was a nightmare. This is from under my scope (The coin looks way better than the pictures). It has a nice bronze? tone on both sides. The other coin is just for comparison purposes. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Could be copper plated on a normal clad coin. What is the weight?
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 Posted 02/04/2022  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are correct, it is toning. Probably environmental toning.
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Well, that's the thing. I bought an El Cheapo scale from Harbor Freight the other day. Got it home and realized it only went out to 1/10's of a gram. (I'm new) So I need a scale that goes out to 1/100's. I'd take any advice on where to get a decent, affordable coin scale. Would that weigh more or less than a normal 67?
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At this point, I'm leaning toward environmental toning, pending a determination of weight.
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@makes, your inexpensive scale should help us to confirm if this is just surface toning. What is the weight?
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I'd take any advice on where to get a decent, affordable coin scale. Would that weigh more or less than a normal 67?
Here is a random one I found on the bay, there are bunches of them out there though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273805503202
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Thanks Spence. Of course I'm unprepared ugh. Left the El Cheapo scale at the shop boxed up to return to Harbor Freight. Going to look at the link Makes Cents posted for ebay.
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makecents, going to check it out. Thanks!
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I have a set of these too, to check the scale every now and the.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115102953894
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Looks very much like a metal detector find. You can even see the white of the cupro-nickel coming through on the highest points of the design. We see lots of these on the Forum. If a post-1964 dime or quarter is buried in soil for a few years, it will turn brown.
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It does look like environmentally toning to me.
If you plan on staying in the hobby,you need to get a scale that reads 0.001grames. A gun powder scale works very well.
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FWIW I took this to our local Mom and Pop jewelry store today to get it weighed. It weighed in at 5.50 grams. Should weigh 5.67 g and the tolerance is .19 g. So it's a little light but still within tolerance correct?
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It is a normal coin that has been outdoors for a time and the color changed to brown. (not red like a missing clad would be)
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When I mentioned red, the color on the edge would be more that color on a missing clad:
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Note the devices on a missing clad? They are weaker because of the thickness of the clad not being there.
Red in color:
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Not brown with silver color change like your coin:
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 Posted 02/05/2022  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MakesNoCentsToMe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Coop for the detailed information. Had it been anything I doubt it would have made it 55 years in circulation.
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Please keep in mind that when checking a coin for weight specifications, you would be comparing your example to the book specs of a coin fresh from the press. As coins circulate and wear they loose weight. A well worn coin will usually be nowhere near the book specs. I never bothered keeping data on clad weights but I can tell you that on 90% quarters, they usually weigh 6.25 grams in MS an AU. Once they get to XF the weight is about 6.20 grams. By the time the coin gets worn down to VG the weight is only about 5.90 grams.
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