2005 Lincoln Cent Multiple Major Errors. Double Die Clash?

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smileyjay New Member 7 Posts	Posted 02/12/2022 9:51 pm Here is a Lincoln Cent that I found about 3 months ago. I have done some research however not finding much info online & the few coin collectors I do know are at a loss as they've never seen anything like it either. Every time I look at it I find something different that I didn't see before. Today I seen something new yet again. I found a set of eyes & face that looks like the heads side of a new Jefferson nickel. I tried to show in the angled pics that on the tails side of the penny's rim & up to about the middle of the lettering around the rim there's a downward indention all the way around the edge where I assume the nickel was thicker causing the edge of penny to be pressed downward as due to the differences in thickness. With that said the rim on the heads side is not affected & the coin lays flat & is not warped. as if the nickel boron die tried to push thru the penny. The coin is also rotated in that when the Lincoln head is at 12noon on a clock or (due North) then the tails side/Lincoln Memorial is at 10pm on a clock (Northwest). That's about as far as my knowledge goes for the moment as I am only 1 year into coin collecting. That's why I'm here, I've read for about a week on here & everybody here seems to have the most knowledge of all the online communities. Thank you on advance for your opinion, I really appreciate it cause this thing is driving me NUTS!! (sorry it's my Adult ADHD.) lol Edited by smileyjay 02/12/2022 10:11 pm Report this Post to the Staff

-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8729 Posts	Posted 02/12/2022 9:57 pm Can't tell for sure with the quality of the pics but it looks like damage, PMD. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 04:30 am . Could use better in focus pics,but it looks like a vise job. PMD. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 3:45 pm Just a vise job, devices are mirrored. Report this Post to the Staff
smileyjay New Member 7 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 7:21 pm Ok here are some better images. I'm not thinking PMD for 2 reasons: #1- All the odd markings are clear incuse impressions once you figure out what u are looking at. #2- I just realized after taking this first photo below where Jefferson's face "JUMPS OUT AT YA" that what I was seeing for 3 months was bits/pieces of a face of a nickel. Therefore if you match a new Jefferson nickel to the image in my coin, the word Liberty in italics is on the wrong side to be a "vise job".... Report this Post to the Staff
smileyjay New Member 7 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 7:33 pm And a few more. If anybody has any suggestions on a better camera app for coins on an Android Moto G Power, I'm all ears. Thanx!! Report this Post to the Staff
smileyjay New Member 7 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 7:41 pm I'm not arguing that anybody is wrong (or right), I'm simply trying to understand here. Those who say it is a vise job can u explain why the word Liberty is on the wrong side of my coin? If I understand how a vise job works, and I line up the eyes on a Jefferson nickel to the eyes on my coin, then the word "Liberty" should be on the left of my coin when in fact the word "Liberty" is on the right on my coin. Ontop of that, the eyes themselves are also "incuse"just as they are on a normal Jefferson nickel. In my thinking it would also depend if it was a die "hub" or a die "stamp"? But whether it was a vise or not how can u explain the word "Liberty" not being to the left of the face of jefferson (the letters "ty" from the italicized word "Liberty" is on the right side of Jefferson's head on my coin, if it was a vise shouldn't it be on the left on my coin)? In the Image below you can see the letters "ty" from the end of the italicized word "Liberty" on my coin. Edited by smileyjay 02/13/2022 7:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8729 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 8:41 pm More of the same, it's still damage. You have a couple of pics that show the cracked copper plating at the northwest corner of the obverse, just above Abe's head. This was the coin being bent. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 9:30 pm looks like a vise job with an inverted (up-side-down) 2006 or later nickel, look way back at picture 10 of the 30 that were posted here. The word 'liberty in italics and reversed is from the 2006 or later nickel, it got imprinted onto your cent when squeezed in a vise. Go look at a newer Jefferson nickel. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 02/14/2022 07:40 am Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8729 Posts	Posted 02/13/2022 9:41 pm Need a couple more pics please. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 04:29 am smileyjay, Way too many photos already.No more please. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1656 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 04:47 am The incuse reversed letters on the rim clinch it, it is a vise job. I don't know what you mean Liberty is on the wrong side of the coin to be a vise job, when it can be on either side depending on which way the coins were put against each other. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 10:55 am Damage is damage. The reason the devices are incuse on the coin and mirrored, is that they were pressed from another coin. Regardless of what coin, it is still a damaged coin. Someone trying to create a mint error, but failing. If they were from the die, they would be incuse, they would be raised. They would be normal, not mirrored. Just damage. A spender. Incuse and raised are opposites: Edited by coop 02/14/2022 10:56 am Report this Post to the Staff
Chase007 Pillar of the Community United States 7505 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 11:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
bobby131313 Forum Dad United States 24148 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 12:24 pm Wow. Shop CCF Members on eBay. Report this Post to the Staff
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