Netherlands East Indies , Problem Coin

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davidc Valued Member Australia 177 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 9:24 pm netherlands east indies , 1838 y or j , 1/2 st denomination , can't seem to find this one anywhere , any help appreciated , thanks dave approx. 24 mm diameter , 4.5 g weight Edited by davidc 02/14/2022 9:53 pm Report this Post to the Staff

tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7936 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 9:47 pm Diameter and weight? Report this Post to the Staff
BCTokens Valued Member Canada 113 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 10:50 pm From what I can understand from the Krause catalogue, it seems to be an obverse and a reverse from two different coins. The obverse (½ st (stuiver)) looks like the ones dated 1821 to 1826, while the reverse (the dated side) is like the 2 cent ones dated 1833 to 1840. So possibly a forgery, but an expert would know more. Jan Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16816 Posts	Posted 02/14/2022 11:03 pm You can't find information about it anywhere, because it doesn't exist. Not officially, anyway. The Netherlands Indies stopped issuing half-stuiver coins in 1826. Copper coins struck in Surabaya and Batavia in 1838 were denominated in cents, not stuivers. The Netherlands Indies was suffering from a severe coin shortage by the 1840s, so I suspect this is a "privately-made" (i.e. counterfeit) coin used to help alleviate the shortage of small change. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Eligius Valued Member Netherlands 175 Posts	Posted 02/15/2022 04:00 am In Scholten, Coins of the Dutch Overseas Territories (the standard work) the official weight of a 1/2 Stuiver or 2 Duit is given as slightly over 6 grams. Scholten also states that many forgeries exist, mostly struck on thin planchets. The die for your coin was not made using punches as all letters/digits are different. Punches would have been used in the official mint. The die probably was hand engraved. Also the mark of the master of the mint is not correct. It should be a J (used 1837-39) but it looks more like a V (used 1834-37). As already mentioned both sides are of different coins. So this without doubt is a forgery Report this Post to the Staff
t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 02/15/2022 07:15 am Interesting contemporary counterfeit Report this Post to the Staff
Safaga Valued Member United States 191 Posts	Posted 02/15/2022 10:23 am Interesting coin and discussion. Take a look at the three different forms of the letter "E" on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
davidc Valued Member Australia 177 Posts	Posted 02/21/2022 01:18 am thanks for all your replies , a real interesting coin , dave Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1314 Posts	Posted 02/21/2022 04:44 am There were even official issues of fake coins from some places... https://www.zeno.ru/search.php?searchid=583611 Report this Post to the Staff
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