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I have heard this so many times. Buy the key dates first. I think 90% or 99% of collectors always starts the collection from common dates coins or coins from circulation. It is hard for a starter especially a younster to buy a really very expensive coin to start this hobby. Imagine for 1 keydate coin you can get almost all the coins in the collection of that type. The minute you buy your first expensive coin then you don't mind anymore to buy the next keydate and then you start upgrading what you have. That is the fun of this hobby.

I think the "Buy the keydates first" only gets into your mind when you start buying your first really expensive or keydate coin and say I should have bought it before when the price was cheaper.

If you can afford to buy first the keydates then you can always afford to buy the whole collection without collecting. Besides keydates are not that easy to find, so I don't see the fun of it.

For a starter I should only say keep whatever coin don't have and choose the nicest one of what you already have.
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 Posted 01/30/2009  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SJUHawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. It's good advice, just not practical in most circumstances.
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 Posted 01/30/2009  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good Idea if you can afford it. Most of us can afford a ten to twenty dollar coin every now and then but shelling out over a hundred dollers for say a Trade dollar or bust something isn't very realistic. So I would say if you can afford it its definitely the way to go.
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 Posted 01/30/2009  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it depends on what interests you. I would rather buy a nice Draped Bust Cent from 1798 to put in my Dansco 7070 then shell out that money to buy a 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent to complete a wheat collection. To me, the 1798 cent is unique and collectible while the 1909 Lincoln is not that different than all the other wheat pennies to most people.

But if your passion is completing sets in a certain grade and/or Lincoln cents in general, you could feel 100% opposite and that'd be ok also.

I try to keep to a budget also and so I like to have a "cheap" set to work on to fill the time between when I can afford the more expensive older coins for my type set. So I am ok working on multiple Lincoln wheat and memorial sets in circulated grades with the knowledge that I may not ever "complete" them.

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 Posted 01/30/2009  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too have heard this from many people that you should buy all the key dates first. And too I agree that about 99.99% of all coin collectors start at the bottom and so they should. And that is because those 99.99% are the common people, working people, family people, etc that all need money for important things prior to a hobby. Food, gas for your car, insurances, etc are far more inportant to the masses than a rare coin. And too, most collectors acquire their coins from change and I haven't seen to many 1913 Liberty Head Nickels in change lately either.
I always disagree with that get the key dates first thing. I feel this is what someone that has no money problems would say. I've been collecting for well over 60 years and I still like the fun of finding or buying a normal, everyday, nice coin.
If and when I win the lotto I've run around saying everyone should buy only key date coins first.
In the meantime, everyone should remember this is a hobby. It is supposed to be relaxing, fun, time consuming and something to share with friends and family. Maybe a few home invators too at times.
My way of looking at coin collecting is to collect what you like, when you find it for what you want to pay, what and where to put them and of course not to show it to certain relatives that always have something better.
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IMO, Key dates can be very hard to find, especially if you are picky about the grade. In the future, when I decide on another series to collect, I will focus on the key dates, but settle for common dates when I see them...
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 Posted 01/30/2009  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CuprousCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the "buy the key dates first" mentality comes from an investment standpoint, in the fact that they tend to appreciate the most due to collector demand. as stated above, this typically applies to those with deep pockets. If you are truly trying to complete a specific set, then this philosophy does apply because the keys are pretty much guaranteed to increase in value therefore making it that much harder to acquire later.

Coin collecting is not really about how much you spend, but more about how much you enjoy what your collecting and that you stay focused on your goals (this is actually harder than it sounds). maybe it should be stated to " buy semi-keys first" and then when you have decided that this is your passion you will have the will power to save up for the keys.

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I think if people start out with the common dates it will prepare them later for the keys. Think about how much you learned putting that set together before you bought key dates. To be honest, if I would have bought the keys first, I would have overpaid and would not have obtained the grade I wanted. Sure I could sell it again, maybe even make a buck if I didnt overpay too much at the start and eventually upgrade.

I wont tell anyone this because I hope they learn to like the hobby before they empty their wallets on it. Who here has bought keys first honestly? I'm sure a few of us and i'd like to hear from them.
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 Posted 01/30/2009  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I completely agree that it's more "fun" to collect the common dates first.

Assume you want to spend $1500 to spend on a Lincoln Cent collection, but end up only affording $750.

What's more "fun", (1) getting the one S-VDB; or (2) all the rest, including the cheap-end die varieties and modern proofs?

I saw a guy's Liberty nickel collection on here a while back. The 1885 was immaculate, and the 190? was junk <= VG-8. That is just weird! But to each his own.
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 Posted 01/31/2009  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't buy the keys first. Most of my need list is key dates in series that I just put together from roll searching.
My Jefferson nickel set is missing 1938 D, 1938 S, 1939 D, 1950 D.
FDR... 1996 W
JFK Halves 1970 D, 1987 D, and 2004 D
Lincoln is like the 5 key's and three teen s mints.

I could likely finish the first three for under a $100. If I finished those, then what would I work in along with my Mercury dimes :)

-SWUSC
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