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Valued Member
United States
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Hello all, and good day! I'm currently trying to put a serious effort and train myself to identify DDO / DDR or identify coins that are not machine doubled, as that seems to be the trend with my recent posts. I went through a good amount of pennies, separated the doubled from the undoubled, looked again at the doubled coins, separated those from what I thought was Machine Doubling, and took out a few that stood out. These doublings don't look flat to me, which is why I decided to take pics and share my findings. Here are some pics to illustrate what I mean: The 20 in "2018" with doubling  Doubled letters on the word "God"  Just to note: I went through the mega-thread on Machine Doubling before posting this: http://goccf.com/t/320844What do y'all think? Thank you for stopping by. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Valued Member
 United States
107 Posts |
Hi JimmyD, thank you for the response. Deteriorating this much on a barely circulated and fairly new coin? Here are some front and back pics, in case it's needed: 2018-P Obverse  2018-P Reverse  Also, thank you for the read-up/link on Deteriorating Dies, bookmarked. Edited by Houler
02/19/2022 07:31 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, I'm thinking Die Deterioration Doubling. On the matter of finding doubled dies in US coinage... I've been searching through coins (mostly rolls and bags) for several decades--into the low millions of pieces and counting; cents, nickels, etc., etc. In all that time I've found perhaps 15 authentic doubled die examples, and the only one 'big one' being the '76 D bicentennial quarter FS-101. I'm not sharing this info to discourage anyone, it's just a reflection on my rate of success. Results may vary. DDOs/DDRs do exist out there, but they tend to be very, very, very scarce. Keep looking. Patience is a virtue. |
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United States
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ijn1944, thank you for your comment. I had an idea that doubled dies were very difficult to come by, I will ponder on your success rate example. I agree patience is a virtue, this is a long-term hobby of mine (until I grow old and kick the bucket) and I don't see myself giving up on it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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When one considers the number of cents frenetically pounded out at the mints on an hourly basis (when production is up and running full tilt), it's a wonder dies last as long as they do--which isn't that long. It makes no difference how new a coin is when the particular die that produced it is rapidly nearing the end of its life ( Die Deterioration). Multiple dies are used when producing a year's run of cent production--not one die, but many. |
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Valued Member
United States
107 Posts |
I see! Thank you for the information ijn1944, had no idea. It makes sense multiple dies are used to produce a year's run of cent production and that they don't last forever, and that it makes no difference how new a coin is. Learn something new every day! On a side note, at least I differentiated from Machine Doubling, which is a success. Now unto a new task, differentiating between Die Deterioration Doubling and doubled dies... |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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No sweat! Coin collecting is almost always fun, and there's much to learn--even after spending many, many years in the trenches.
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United States
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Hope these help you. In short on shield cents we are looking for extra thickness of the devices and distortion. Once you get your eyes trained to see them it'll be so fun ofc haha in time.   |
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 United States
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United States
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WOW! A lot of great information here. Special thanks to gorham_collector for the visual aid here.
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United States
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Thank you gorham_collector and John1 for the valuable resources! Bookmarked.
Wow, so many different kinds of doubling besides Doubled Dies, who would've thunk. Jeez Louise lol
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Posted 02/19/2022 07:24 am
Yep 
