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I found one of these yesterday but nothing in my Charlton about it. Is this an actual error/variety? Or simply one of coins and Canadas "varieties" Edited by Wrekkdd
02/20/2022 09:57 am
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It's MD or Die Deterioration. Just look at the laundry list of CaC's other "varieties" that were submitted and listed as 6/6, or filled, or doubled.. If you have one, keep it as a manufactured oddity and not an error or variety. |
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 ya I figured as much thanks. Ya they have it weirdly priced as if it's a rarer variety. I didn't have a 1946 so either way I'm happy to find it. |
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6/6 is listed in both Charlton's and Trends with a hefty premium over the regular 46.
The only pic I've seen is the one on CAC, and that does not look like a repunched 6 to me.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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02/20/2022 11:05 am
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Only example iv seen is the coin and Canada one and agree it has the look of MD. Mine the same as the one they have. Just like the one they gave on there example there seems to be something going on with the 4. I took this pic last night but didn't actually get a good look at the coin under my scope. I apologize for the screen shot but couldn't capture it with a normal photo.  The coin itself is pretty dinged up. |
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If you look at ALL of the supposed "6/6's" on CaC at the bottom of the page, where all different examples of "oddity" 1946's are shown, you'll come to the same conclusion that I have. CaC and Charlton and Trends can continue to list and price something that's not what they show or note. The war was over, proper steel was still hard to find, and they ran the presses as long as possible. Remember that they started the 1946 mintage in 1945, just after the war's end.. It's MD or Die Deterioration, regardless what the guides say. |
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Trends for these kinds of coins seems to be accurate I see bugtails and the like going for 10-20$. I imagine there would be a premium for this one. If people collect them I hold onto them even though I personally don't. Much like fancy serial numbers, I look for them and want examples but to me there isn't really anything that makes it more appealing as a collectable. I didn't see this listed my the 70th addition charlton so maybe it was removed unless I just missed it. I needed a 46 so I'm happy I found one, now I'm on the hunt for the elusive 1948:p.
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"Trends" are what a dealer "wishes for", not what they sell for. If people want to pay 10-20 dollars for bugtails and the like, then all they're going to have is a thin wallet.
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People buying the coins is what sets the trends. If people wish to focus in such errors like die events and Die Deterioration then th y are the ones making these coins valuable. For example with bug tails they are a die chips correct? I have looked at at least 100 1964 and just found the extra water line variety but have still yet to find a bugtail, making it seems they are collected which makes them collectable lol. I don't see premiums for MD or DDD but I do for die cracks and specific "varieties". This can easily be attributed to CAC as they tend to be the site most novice collectors, or even some more seasoned collectors follow. I do not personally follow these trends but if I come across a coin that for some reason people are paying a premium for(for what ever reason) I'm happy with finding one. The future of the hobby is dependant on the current and soon to be collectors, the more there are and the more something is deemed popular(for what ever reason) is what is made "collectable". Rarity does effect what's collectable but the majority of the collectors focusing on a more common thing makes it become more scarce, so more collectable. I personally have yet to find a bug tail and would not purchase one, but who am I to judge other collectors on what they want and enjoy? A coin could be 1/100,000,000 and be less collectable then one that's say 1/10,000. |
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Here's an actual 6/6 and what it actually sold for. Now this may, in fact, BE a 6/6 but might be minor MD as well. Light from photo make letters appear off set, as well as sweep of the 6, but close-up only the 6 https://www.ebay.com/itm/194699676152Well, it looks like ebay has eliminated the correct link that I sent. It showed a good, clean 6, doubled only under the bottom of the 6 with nice clear offset and no other offset or doubling anywhere. Edited by okiecoiner
02/20/2022 4:58 pm
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To me mine looks like single digit MD and that one looks like DDD, I'm not sure tell tale signs of a repunched didget. I only had one reference for the variety since it's no in my Charlton and this is the same one "advertised" on coins and Canada as being the 6/6. |
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From what iv read Die Deterioration usually shows in the direction of the rim, the Die Deterioration looks evident in this because if the 4 but the 6 the metal looks like MD but I would expect to see it on the tail of the 6 as well, which I don't. If there is a reference other then CAC I'd like to check the info on it. Here is a slightly better shot of the date.  On a side note about the coin on the ebay link, it appears to be a misaligned die on the edges where the 6 is, I'm not 100% on this but imagine a misaligned die would cause faster Die Deterioration on the devices it is closest to, it's also evident in the same area on the obverse where you can see Die Deterioration on the denticles. Edited by Wrekkdd
02/20/2022 3:29 pm
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Another like yours on CaC. You can't go by what they say on there. And then many people keep spouting it. This is called something else in the variety scetion of CaC, but looks like yours unadorned by good photo: https://www.coinsandcanada.com/coin...52#erreur-11Edited by okiecoiner
02/20/2022 4:44 pm
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Thanks okie, clears up my question I think lol. That looks like a more severe example of the same thing but is not listed as anything for a price. Well I still got myself a nickel I didn't have lol.
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Resurrecting an old thread. Over the years I've found several coins that look like the OP's coin. Always figured it was Die Deterioration. But I also have a few like these shown below. Have not found a photo that identifies what a 6/6 should look like. I think these are MD. Do you agree?   |
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