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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I'm trying to get hold of some in the UK and really can't find any. I've ordered from a US supplier but it looks like they are out of stock. Is anyone able to get any and ship it to me in the UK, (which is a big ask I know) or can anyone recommend a product I can get in the UK which has the same ingredients more or less? I know using this stuff is frowned upon by some but it is only to dip some proof coins for a matter of seconds before submission to ensure my best chance at MS68 or 69. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or help.
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Moderator
 United States
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You probably should not dip them if you plan on submitting them, they can tell. Have you checked Amazon.com? John1 
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
1273 Posts |
Yeah checked Amazon, out of stock. They are available in Walmart USA but they don't ship to the UK. I've done my research regarding this and its only to dip for a few seconds, PCGS themselves actually use it in conservation or so I'm reliably informed. Basically if I submit them now I know they're going to get MS67 but with a quick dip they will be MS68 or 69 :)
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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try ebay. someone will have it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
824 Posts |
I got some from Wizard coin supply. Not sure if they ship to the U.K.
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Moderator
 Australia
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The problem is, E-Z-est silver dip contains sulfuric acid, which is a hazardous chemical and thus should not be shipped by air. If someone does ship it to you from America, they'll have to either put it on a boat or lie on the hazardous goods declaration form.
You're better off finding a local manufacturer of the same stuff. I believe "Hagerty silver dip" is a British-made formula that seems to be more or less the same. Here in Australia, we have Goddards Dip. Different labels and patents, but all much the same ingredients inside. Chemistry is chemistry, and the laws of chemistry don't care about the branding on the wrapper.
If no-one will ship it to you and nobody in Britain makes and sells an equivalent product, maybe make your own. It's about 1% sulfuric acid, 0.5% thiourea, and maybe a splash of detergent. The retail formulas probably also contain fragrances to mask the sulfur smell from the thiourea.
Yeah, 1% sufuric acid isn't really all that hazardous (compared to the 37% sulfuric acid in your car battery or the 98% sulfuric acid I use in the lab at work, for example). But rules are rules; sulfuric acid is regarded as a hazardous chemical, no matter how dilute you ship it.
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
1273 Posts |
Thanks Sap, I'll see if I can get something similar.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I agree that you shouldn't use E-z-est on proof coins if you want to submit them for grading . If you can post photos of the coins obverse and reverse I'm sure the community can tell what the coins need to obtain a 68 or 69 or less of a grade . 
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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Lindner (out of Germany) offers metal-specific coin dips - I believe they are available in the UK. Check them out.
Good Luck!
PS I have watched dealers dip proof coins, send them off to either PCGS or NGC, and then get graded coins back without issue. Just make sure to rinse them thoroughly after the dip and don't over dip!
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Valued Member
United States
442 Posts |
In my experience dipped proofs often come out looking worse than before.
Bought some silver proof Ikes years ago that were full of green slime. But because of that I got them for under melt. So figure I had nothing to lose. Good chance to practice. The slime came off easy. But they always dried with ugly white lines when rinsing in running tap water. So I added a final rinse in distilled water. Results were better but still spotty.
Acetone was the best way to get rid of the green slime, without causing surface lines or spots. But that won't do anything about ugly toning. So I guess it depends on what it is that you are trying to remove.
Also, are these valuable coins. If so, maybe professional conservation at what ever grading company you use might be better.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: Trying To Get Hold Of E-z-est Coin Cleaner E-z-est is not a coin cleaner per say . It's mainly used as a dip for Gold and Siver to remove oxidation black spots and heavy toning . It will not clean a dirty coin that just came out of the ground . 
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Thanks for the responses. I used Hagertys silver dip and it worked incredibly well, I only dipped for 1 or 2 seconds no more. I rinsed in distilled water, and then patted the coin dry with lint free cloth and blew the hairdryer on low just to fully dry the coin before placing in a flip. Incredible results, hoping for PF68 on most of them but we shall see, stranger things have happened.
Edited by TobyJ 03/08/2022 11:18 am
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New Member
Spain
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How did it turn out with Hagerty?
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Moderator
 United States
187446 Posts |
 to the Community, tinkertell!
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