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Hi All, Attached is a photo of my 1908 V nickel with what appears to be a nearly perfect Fibonacci crucifix on the hexagon star #3 on the obverse left side. What makes this more interesting is the 1st and 2nd star on the obverse left side is the stars are not fully struck. This does not appear to be wear based on the high quality of the coin. Has anyone ever seen one of these?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just a contact mark on the normal design.  |
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Closer magnification reveals a faint "S" appears on the K point of the star. That is also quite a coincidental 90 degree angle and evenly spaced contact mark. What makes it more interesting that a "crucifix" is superimposed on a six pointed star (Star of David).  |
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Its just damage. That star took a hit.
Still a nice coin to have
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Any feedback on what may have caused the missing bisecting diameter strike in stars 1 and 2?  |
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Strike weakness, this is what you're seeing in the stars. Very common to see. Not enough pressure during striking would cause weakness in the highest points of the devices. Also note the separation of the lower curl against the back of the neckline. This is caused by over polished dies that removed the lower relief of the details. And as others have said, just a coincidental hit to the star. None of the above bring any premium. Just a combination of die events and post mint damage. Edited by Ty2020b
02/21/2022 2:16 pm
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Thanks for the response TY2020. The coin really has a very lite strike and lacks sharp definition.
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Die wear and strike weakness can both be the culprit of that.
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Valuable, insightful discussion.
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I'm curious what a "Fibonacci crucifix" is. I'm only aware of the Fibonacci sequence. Something out of "The Da Vinci Code" perhaps? It seems like it's referring to the "golden ratio". That's related to the Fibonacci sequence but not the same, and Fibonacci never connected his sequence to the golden ratio.
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Fibonacci is a relative ratio and not accidental. Some call it the divine ratio. I coined (no pun intended) the phrase Fibonacci Crucifix based on my understanding of both the Fibonacci Sequence, the Golden Ratio and it's application to the mark on my V nickel. Edited by La_isla
02/22/2022 11:45 pm
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Thanks for clarifying, so you made that up yourself. You're confusing Fibonacci numbers with the golden ratio. The golden ratio has also been called the divine proportion or divine section, but the Fibonacci sequence was never called "divine" in the classic literature. The golden ratio is an irrational number, like pi. As I said above, Fibonacci numbers and golden ratio are not the same thing, although mathematically they have been connected - the larger the Fibonacci numbers, the closer they approximate the golden ratio. Of course you could make a crucifix with Fibonacci numbers as dimensions and call it that if you wish. Regardless, as others have said your coin took a hit and it's just a coincidence.
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Lets assume you are correct and the Fibonacci sequence has never been called divine in classic literature, I wish I had time to read it all. The point I was trying to make is that the Fibonacci sequence is not accidental. In some circles, you may not be familiar with, anything that is not accidental is divine. Thank you for your opinion, it is much appreciated. La_isla
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02/23/2022 1:00 pm
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