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$20 Statute Of Liberty Do I Have Something?

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 Posted 02/24/2022  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Looks like a counter stamped note. No added value.
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You have a $20.00 bill that is worth $20.00

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Buy one of these from Walmart and make your own.

Actually, don't do that. Deliberately defacing federal reserve notes is a federal offence.
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I wasn't sure if you were being serious, and then I noticed it was your first post. The BLACK Statue of Liberty on the all GREEN back was put there long after this note was printed. It's no different than seeing a random ink pen notation on our currency, and attributing that to a person writing on the banknote.
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Defacing federal reserve notes with a stamp is a federal offence? But counter-stamping cents with silly state outlines and other trivia is not?
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I was trying to see where was statue of liberty , and then there it was!
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Defacing federal reserve notes with a stamp is a federal offence? But counter-stamping cents with silly state outlines and other trivia is not?

Correct. This is mainly because a Federal Reserve note remains the property of the Federal Reserve Bank that issued it. Technically, you own the money the note represents, but not the note itself. Coins, on the other hand, are your property, to do with as you wish (within limits). America is rather unusual in this respect, as most countries regard both the banknotes and the coinage as Property of the State and thus illegal to vandalize.

Defacing a Federal Reserve note in such a way as to render it unfit for re-issue is a crime punishable by up to 6 months in the Fed pen. They would have to prove in a court of law that (a) you did it, (b) the note was indeed rendered unfit for reissue by your actions, and (c) it was your deliberate intent, rather than an accident. I don't think anyone has been sentenced to jail for inking a note, and I think it highly arguable that a tiny little image of the SoL suddenly renders this banknote useless and unfit for purpose. But the law is there if they felt like enforcing it. You might recall that the banknote tracking website wheresgeorge.com ran afoul of this law; they received legal advice that wheresgeorge itself shouldn't make and sell their own wheresgeorge.com stamp, and wheresgeorge users would be required to make or procure their own stamps, rather than buy a stamp from wheresgeorge.

Defacing a coin is perfectly legal, with the notable exceptions of (a) adding an advertisement, and (b) melting or attempting to melt a proscribed coin for scrap metal value. Striking a Statue of Liberty, Kennedy's face, a map of Iowa, the Masonic Square-and-Compass or some other non-corporate image onto a coin is considered "not advertising", and is also clearly not intended to attempt to destroy the coin for scrap metal value. They are considered "art", and using coins to make art isn't illegal.
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Well, I must say, thank you for that erudite reply.
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Please post your note in the horizontal orientation so that we don't have to strain our neck.

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That SoL image does not render the note unfit. If those sorts of marks did, and this law was enforced, there'd develop a shortage of bank tellers given how much they stamp and write on currency.
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