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 Posted 03/08/2022  12:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ozzy5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just found a 1969 S 1c that has the same doubling as seen in known examples. The spread is maybe %40 of the standard? Just curious if this could be a different die stage, etc.? Thank you for your input. I know it's a looooooong shot.
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 Posted 03/08/2022  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry,going to need better photos. Less glare and in focus please. With those pics I see no doubling at all.
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Have you by chance seen online what the 1969 S Lincoln Cent DDO-001 looks like? I don't see a match.
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For it to be THE doubled die, the spread has to match exactly. The doubling takes place on the die it self, not the coin. Therefore, every coin struck by those dies will show the same amount of doubling. The good 1969-S doubled die is so obvious, you wouldn't need to ask if it is the right one.
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 Posted 03/08/2022  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzy5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I was writing this some genius posted another stupid picture with the diagnostics. I don't have an MS-65 coin. I didn't ask about having a perfect MS plus coin. I said there is doubling that looks like the FS 101 and none of you looked at the picture for 10 seconds to see that it's actually there so I will do what I have already written later in the paragraph. Please just stop posting those kind of pictures and educate people because unless they're really that stupid they would have already looked at the stuff themselves. And if they do need the help tell them how to do the diagnostics and guide them to the proper website that provide those files. You're doing the equivalent of a guy walking into a doctor and asking if he has a brain injury because his head hurts and showing him a picture of a guy with a hatchet in his head saying this is what it should look like.
8've come to the conclusion that I'm done using this forum after today. I'm going to repost one of the pictures with some arrows or lines drawn to the areas I'm talking about so that those of you that are interested will be able to see that simply studying the image for 30 seconds without the assumption that I'm posting an MS-66 plus "True View" version would have given you a clear perspective.
Thank you to "John" and the other one or two of you that have always been courteous and insightful.
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Secondly last weekend I bought 20 Mercury dimes and six of them are 1942 over 41s, I know everyone reading this is going to call BS immediately but I assure you they are what they are, 4 Denver 2 Philly. I would like someone experienced to grade them simply so I I'm more informed when it comes to selling a couple of them. For your help I will give you 3rd best of the bunch.
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It would be great if you posted some good photos of the dimes in the grading section,one at a time. One full coin pic of the front and one of the back along with one or two close ups.
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Given the images posted above, I'm not seeing any doubling. Hoping to see full, large and sharp pics.
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Just curious if this could be a different die stage, etc.?


When you say "die stage" are you referring to Die Deterioration? (which is not any DDO)

Or, are you referring to the deterioration of the working punch, or hub, that produces the working dies?

The 1969 DDO is from the hubbing mistake of only particular working die. All coins struck by that die, would be the same. It either is a DDO, or it is not, there are no transitional states.
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coop, you're a genius with stuuuped pictures.
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Ozzy,
Your images are less than clear and yet you lash out at someone that does post clear images showing the separation with 100% of the "standard". Don't get frustrated at others. Learn, read, and learn some more about what others are sharing. You'll do your blood pressure wonders.

ps. Are you aware that 1969S coins are notorious for having strong MD that mimics the "real McCoy"?
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Opinions on those 1969s ? Machine Doubling . Or possible DDO
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Best to start your own thread. Need better photos to help you.
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