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Grade Request For 1900-O Morgan #2

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Seller's photos. Thank you for your opinions.

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I'll say AU-53.
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I agree with the frog
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I think the photo might be deceiving. I see this as a weak strike MS-63.
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On review, I think you might be right.
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I can see it possibly getting a 64.

I find what appears to be a die break through the top of "ATES OF" to be quite interesting.
Is there a VAM for that?
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I find what appears to be a die break through the top of "ATES OF" to be quite interesting.
Is there a VAM for that?


Just came off of the VAM forum and @dave700x found this one to be VAM 23D2.

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...0-O_VAM-23D2
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Typical pancake strike from the no mint in the 20th century and yeah, there's even worse examples. I agree with MS63.
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I'm at MS63 as well
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Crappy strike aside, I think the flatness is just too extensive to warrant a MS grade on a Morgan dollar.

I see hints of wear right where I'd expect to find it, but even if all the flatness is from a bad strike, the TPG will penalize it on a Morgan.

AU55


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In before frog changes his mind again after pristines analysis
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Weakly struck but I think it has some rub too, see the cheek, so I'll say AU-58.
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a weaker than normal strike for this year. tough call on luster due to lighting but I think its missing on the jaw area. tough call between AU58 and MS63. I'm leaning slider at AU58
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Definitely a pancake.
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Luster breaks on the cheek have me at AU-58
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I appreciate the insights from my fellow CCFers. These two Morgans (this and the 1904O) should be in hand this week. I always hope that these sliders will end up being MS, but I'm after the variety more that the grade. At present I'm working on an amateur VAM set for the 1900-O. Obviously won't be able to get each one, but this particular year/MM combo offers lots of cracky coins.

A question I've pondered: In your opinion, were the die finishers at New Orleans less-qualified that at the other mints, the presses not set up the same, or did the environment had something to do with the process? It seems unusual to find a MDS or later Morgan from New Orleans without some sort of die anomaly.
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