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Bedrock of the Community
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On review, I think you might be right.
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I can see it possibly getting a 64. I find what appears to be a die break through the top of "ATES OF" to be quite interesting. Is there a VAM for that? |
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"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Typical pancake strike from the no mint in the 20th century and yeah, there's even worse examples. I agree with MS63. |
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Crappy strike aside, I think the flatness is just too extensive to warrant a MS grade on a Morgan dollar. I see hints of wear right where I'd expect to find it, but even if all the flatness is from a bad strike, the TPG will penalize it on a Morgan. AU55  Edited by pristine2
03/11/2022 5:08 pm
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Weakly struck but I think it has some rub too, see the cheek, so I'll say AU-58.
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a weaker than normal strike for this year. tough call on luster due to lighting but I think its missing on the jaw area. tough call between AU58 and MS63. I'm leaning slider at AU58
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Luster breaks on the cheek have me at AU-58
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I appreciate the insights from my fellow CCFers. These two Morgans (this and the 1904O) should be in hand this week. I always hope that these sliders will end up being MS, but I'm after the variety more that the grade. At present I'm working on an amateur VAM set for the 1900-O. Obviously won't be able to get each one, but this particular year/MM combo offers lots of cracky coins. A question I've pondered: In your opinion, were the die finishers at New Orleans less-qualified that at the other mints, the presses not set up the same, or did the environment had something to do with the process? It seems unusual to find a MDS or later Morgan from New Orleans without some sort of die anomaly. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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AU58 slider Unc. Another nice NO Morgan with advanced Die Deterioration and a field displacement below IBUS to the top of the cap. The writing was already on the wall at the no mint by this time, the employees and supervisors all knew the end was coming soon. Yet they cranked those puppies up and hammered out lots and lots of big round hunks of silver. Outright apathy, if not neglect, was present at all levels of the operation (and quite possibly interference from organized crime figures if you believe Mr. Burdette's take on things) The dies were run until they broke and then run some more, re-polished, basined, and ground to remove the evidence of cracks and clashing. cf. 1904-O VAM 28A "trigger", one of my favorites, and one of the few hard clashed Morgans that can be found in DMPL, indicating that the poor conditions at the mint were causing damage to even brand-new dies, complete with a rotated reverse! Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Interesting summary of the goings-on at New Orleans during this period. Thanks, @paralyse
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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I see a flat strike 64.
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