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1895 $20 Liberty Head Double Eagle

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 Posted 03/14/2022  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think these photos might be hiding something. They seem very washed out. The coin looks MS but not sure if it was cleaned. The horizontal scratches by the date make me think it was. MS details, cleaned IMHO.
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 Posted 03/14/2022  10:42 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details due to the cleaning hairlines at the date.
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 Posted 03/15/2022  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Light rub visible on Liberty's cheek, forehead, and hair. Hits by I in LIBERTY and on the shield aren't bad. Hairlines around the date seem minor, not really enough to detail the coin. Luster mostly intact across the fields.
I'm at AU-58 on this one. Not scarce but a hefty chunk of gold to add to your stash.
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 Posted 03/15/2022  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately I'm at AU details. My eyes were immediately drawn to the hairlines about the date.
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I agree with AU details. If it does not detail it would be 55/58.
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This came in. Looks beautiful with great luster.

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I'm still at AU-58, possibly cleaned.
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AU58 Details. I personally find the scratches around the date distracting.
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With respect, I think you paid over retail, and should return it if you can.
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MS Details, I agree with Frog as the price is a little high with the scratches around the date.
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i just have a question for all those thinking those hairlines are cleaning marks. please explain how someone can use something to clean the coin in that tight area without crossing over the date, rims or lower rim of the bust?
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Scratches around the date and big hit on the shield now make this AU Details for me also.
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i just have a question for all those thinking those hairlines are cleaning marks. please explain how someone can use something to clean the coin in that tight area without crossing over the date, rims or lower rim of the bust?

I believe the scratches do cross over the date and lower bust. If you look in between the date numerals, there are no hairlines. So someone could've easily taken a rough surface and rubbed it across the date area, but not reaching the tight spaces. If they were die polishing lines, then the scratches would be seen between the numerals.

Numismatic student will have to affirm that because he is the only one who has the coin in hand.
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I'm going to assume it straight grades and would expect a MS62 at least. Quite possibly MS63.
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So how about it, NS - what are your thoughts after all this back-and-forth?
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