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2005 Kansas State Quarter. Strange Silhouette Error.

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I'm unsure what this is here. It's hard to see in the photo. There appears to be a mistrike from a reverse of another coin on the obverse of this coin. Say a silhouette of the day rising coin I think. The obverse side has one also but it appears to be the buffalo silhouette. Again by the naked eye it's plain as day. With a camera it hides some. I hope you all can see and help with this. It is a very cool looking coin.
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Yep
Looks environmental stains to me.
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The dies suffered a die clash.
The dies were then polished causing the
lighter and darker areas.
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I'm hesitating to state definitively what's happening here--given the pics posted. Would much rather have the coin in-hand to view it from varying angles under different lighting conditions.
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Not seeing it.



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The obverse is a struck thru. grease, commonly seen on the earlier ATB Quarters of that era and it looks like you may have what's known as IN GOD WE -RUST but it'll help if you could post a clear/focused close up of IGWT.
It's hard to tell what's on the back, if any! due to heavy glare.
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It could have been erased with a pencil? Either way there is no premium for this coin. Doesn't really matter. It is not a mint error.
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It could have been erased with a pencil?

No pencils have been used here for sure! It is definitely a good example of Struck thru grease as I mentioned earlier, I do have a few examples of it, and that is why I recognize the pattern on the obverse resembling Rays. and if it is missing the T in TRUST as it looks like it might, it does carry a premium of up to $20.00 - $25 depending on the grade, there are collectors who collect those.
A close up of TRUST will help.
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Yep
Trying to learn.
If grease why isn't Roosevelt affected?
He is surrounded by grease.?
Also waiting to see pic of IGWT. See
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https://www.error-ref.com/?s=struck+through+grease


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Struck Through Smooth, Viscous Material (grease, oil)
PART VI. Striking Errors:
Struck Through Errors:
Struck Through "Grease"
Definition: The recesses of a die sometimes become clogged with compacted gunk generally composed of a mixture of lubricant, metal dust, and dirt. This material is sometimes called "die fill" but is more commonly referred to as "grease". Die fill can be coarse or smooth, hard or viscous. It can fill isolated design elements (a "filled die" error) or can coat the entire die face. Coatings are sometimes so thick that the entire design is obscured.
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The lines a to tight and crisp to be a stain. It looks like something was stamped behind that picture. When it was a fresh planchette.
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I would be willing to send the coin to a trust member of this group to look at the coin and return. I'm confident enough to know it's no spill or stain. It was a prestrike. You can't see it in photos very well. The naked eye shows all. No lighting needed really. Fully visible.
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You can see the lines of the shadowed area much better. The T is there. You can clearly see it's not stain. Someone would have needed to tape it off to cause a stain that detailed.
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Thanks for the pictures, your picture is clear enough for me to see that it is a strike thru grease, I have seen several similar examples, although the T is still visible it's they are collectors who like examples like this and I would keep the coin if I were you.
You're welcome to send it to me for a look at and close up pics if you like, you can email me , click on my user name then on my profile page under contact information you'll see " Send an email " be sure to unblock yours so you can receive my reply.
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Much nicer close-up pictures! Thanks, I'll change my first (and second thoughts) on this, It does look like a strike through - is it grease or something else? I cannot say, maybe Chase if he gets a good look at it we'll find out.
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