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Admiral Medal, Looking For More Information

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Hi All,

I have this medal in my collection for QUITE a while but I can't find many information about it. It is somehow corrosed. I was wondering if someone else here might know more about it.

2 crossed flags on one side
Reverse lyrics: ADMIRAL OF THE FLEET SIR PHIPPS HORNBY GCB

For what was this medal awarded? This person did a lot in history if british navy. Very interesting.

I found this from wikepedia. Admiral Sir Phipps Hornby, GCB (27 April 1785 - 19 March 1867) was a prominent and experienced Royal Navy officer of the nineteenth century. Hornby served on frigates throughout most of his wartime experience, which included witnessing the Nore Mutiny first hand aged 12 in 1797.


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It was made in 1895. More info here:
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/o...object-40238
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Thank you! It is less old then I expected it to be. Perhaps the wear of a detection find made it look more old.

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Hello to a fellow metal detectorist. I thought at the time it looked like a detecting find. Did you find this in the Netherlands? If so, one wonders how it ended up there.
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I found this from wikepedia. Admiral Sir Phipps Hornby, GCB (27 April 1785 - 19 March 1867) was a prominent and experienced Royal Navy officer of the nineteenth century. Hornby served on frigates throughout most of his wartime experience, which included witnessing the Nore Mutiny first hand aged 12 in 1797.

The admiral named on this medal is not that Sir Phipps Hornby, but his son, Sir Geoffrey Phipps Hornby (1825-1895), who also reached the rank of admiral. Sir Phipps Senior could no have been the "founding president" of the Navy League in 1895, since he was long dead (and his son would pass away in that same year).
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You are right. Then it can't be him. I did read that his son or 2 were in the navy aswell. Then I wonder if these things like jobs in the past are more inherited then just only being good in your job. At least at some part maybe?
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Progression in the ranks of the Royal Navy usually did indeed have a lot more to do with "who you knew" rather than "how well you did your job". Patronage was key to promotion. A skilled but patron-less officer was likely doomed to remain un-promoted, unless they were so skilled and talented (or lucky) they could no longer be ignored by the Naval bureaucracy. Young master Hornby certainly had patronage in the form of his esteemed father, and even after his father died, many of his father's old friends continued to support him.

Once a British naval officer attained the rank of "Post-Captain", neither merit nor patronage applied any more - all that mattered was seniority. Once you were "made Post", all you had to do to become an admiral was to outlive everybody else.
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