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1882-S Morgan. Your Opinion On Grade. (Enhanced Photos Vs My Photos)

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 Posted 03/31/2022  7:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add waxelastik to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again. I'm sorry to keep blasting the forum, but I just had a mail call today. I wanted your opinion on the grade of this Morgan. I'm putting up the "enhanced" photos from the listing vs my pedestrian photography skills. I know it's hard to grade without it being in your hands, but this thing has major luste. I own about 15 Morgans total, and this is probably the nicest one that I own. I thank you all for your observations in advance and I'm curious if it's worth sending off to get graded. I've never sent off a coin to be graded before.


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 Posted 03/31/2022  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neither set of images gives me a good feel. These could be two different coins.



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 Posted 03/31/2022  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It kinda looks prooflike to me, especially the top images. Probably a MS-64-66 wouldn't surprise me.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your enhanced photos are out of focus and do not show the details. The coin is not gradable from the enhanced photos.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say with these photos. Maybe MS-63?
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 Posted 04/01/2022  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a canyoncity_coin purchase. I never trust these guys. The photos are boosted to heck.

I'd tentatively call it a 63, would bet it sold for $100+
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 Posted 04/01/2022  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add waxelastik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adam, it was from Auction Kings. Coinfrog mentioned it looking like 2 separate coins, but I do believe they are the same. I don't know how these guys enhance their photos. Do y'all have any recommendations on where to get solid Morgans that are what they say they are?
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My first thought was Canyon City as well but the background is different.
It does appear to be the same coin but the seller's (shyster's) images are really juiced.
I would not bother sending this coin to be graded. If you want a graded example I would suggest returning this coin and looking for an MS64 or 65 PCGS or NGC graded example. You can search ebay for this criteria or find a B&M shop near you.
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 Posted 04/01/2022  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

You paid $98 for a coin that would most likely grade MS63 and paying $35 to get the coin graded. Find a NGC or PCGS MS64 for under $110 or a MS 65 for under $200. There are 152 MS64 1882 S Morgan's listed on ebay. Go the auction route or make an offer on a BIN listing.
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I am also having problems determining whether it's the same coin. There are marks in the obverse rim in the upper images at M and below 82 that do not appear in the lower images, and an obvious scratch across the viewer's-left wing on the reverse in the lower image that does not appear in the upper image. Did the seller specify that their coin pictured would be the one you would receive?
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Y'all know what... it didn't say it was the exact coin in the listing. I'm starting to see the subtle differences in the 2 coins. Looks like I got burned again. Another lesson learned. Dang man.
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I just read 5 negative feedbacks about Auction Kings this month from people not getting the exact coin. Such a rookie mistake by me.
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 Posted 04/01/2022  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Admiral to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't render a grade using the top pics. There is too much reflection and surfaces can't be observed properly. On the lower pics, a complete opposite where your lighting is not helping at all . I say, adjust your light or type of light, try different angles and grey background ( an inexpensive photo white box with led is awesome for pics) and lastly, but most importantly, stick with it and learn daily !!! We all love this hobby!
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 Posted 04/01/2022  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You say you own this coin. Please start over and give us one set of pics that you believe accurately represents it.
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Quote:
stick with it and learn daily !!! We all love this hobby!


Amen bother!
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Thanks for the advice on how to take proper pics Admiral.

Coinfrog, I do own the coin, but I will have to learn how to take proper pics to represent the coin. I'll have to do some research on lighting, shadow box, etc to show y'all an accurate depiction.
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