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Question About A Japanese 1863-1867 Bunkyu Eiho (4 Mon) Coin, Anyone Here Know What Variety This Is?

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 Posted 04/02/2022  03:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add casualcoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I acquired this Japanese 4 Mon coin that appears to be a Bunkyu Eiho coin from 1863-1867 but I can't find a photo of one with the same style of characters and I know very little about Japanese coins. Does anyone here know what variety this coin is and the exact date? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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 Posted 04/02/2022  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm weak on Japanese coins.
I wonder if page 68 of Early Japanese Coins by Hartill is of any value?
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 Posted 04/02/2022  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wandering Circle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it's this variant.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces147023.html

That top "bit" on the edge is a bit weird, maybe it's a trial run or mother coin(bosen)?
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces291859.html
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 Posted 04/03/2022  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add casualcoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This just got interesting. I finally got a chance to examine this piece in hand and it appears to not be made of bronze but is instead made of tin. This may be a tin pattern.
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If I had the coin and thought it was tin, I'd check if the specific gravity was 7.3
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 Posted 04/04/2022  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add casualcoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This has gotten interesting enough that I think that I am going to submit this item to ANACS for certification and see what they say.
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 Posted 04/05/2022  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add casualcoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some photos that better show the color of the item:
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Something doesn't look quite right..
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It almost looks like H5.17
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