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Pillar of the Community
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This one caught my eye and didn't disappoint. Any CAC green bean fans? I got a feeling it would sticker at its given grade.Grade and Enjoy.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd have to say G-04 give the reverse rim, choice for grade.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
vg8. Reverse rim weakness limits this coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
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1479 Posts |
 G4! crimany coinfrog your too conservative LOL study this specimen it sings high notes. This coin is so luscious it would get an eagle eye sticker if it was an Indian cent. Froggie your too tough a grader. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Show me ANY grading guide that rates a Barber half with incomplete reverse rims as VG. Please, show me just one competent source! I'll be the first to admit my error if wrong.  Edited by Coinfrog
04/09/2022 7:17 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
I think it is important to look at the entire coin rather than just one aspect.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If you think a TPG is going to ignore that reverse rim, then I respectfully disagree, as I often do with you sir.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11880 Posts |
I feel confident that NGC did not call this one a G4.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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United States
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you got me there coinfrog I'm 27 slabbed coins in on the series now and one certainty so far between them (PCGS NGC ANACS) is VG has complete rims. I admit to me if a barber half is VG it better have full rims and some denticles. Problem is the 1890's have cleaned me out beans ham cornbread again until the 1st. Have passed on 20 1892 O's G-4 G-6 that reverse looks AG3 the 92 O imo is the true low grade star followed by the 92 S 96 O 1897 O. May be reinventing wheel but original 1890's in G G+ has set me back the price of a 100 oz. bar and I'm feinen for the 1896 P and 92 O. Barbers oh Barbers
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Bedrock of the Community
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@numismaic student - so you've backed off VG-08?
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Bedrock of the Community
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no, have you backed off G4?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Odd wear pattern to the reverse rim. All other aspects and details of this coin lead me to consider it VG-8 except for that rim issue. Considering that area is on the reverse side, I suspect it got a pass from the graders and bumped to VG-8. $100 coin so nothing especially rare here. I can see the Frogs reasoning however and he would be technically correct.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Shall we have a vote? I ribbit on this one  How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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Pillar of the Community
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G4 on a Monday grading session; G6 on a Friday afternoon grading session.
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Pillar of the Community
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Based on what's being said here I'm guessing this graded VG with NGC but I'd be calling this a G-06 in my book. I can see how this would have scored VG though. Still a very nice coin IMO. I also looked through some TPG'd low grade barbers and as mentioned above, every coin VG-08 and above has full rim on both sides. Coins at G-06 and below often had some rim wear like seen on your coin CAM. An interesting observation and something I hadn't previously known. You learn something new everyday. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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04/09/2022 10:03 pm
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G4 on a Monday grading session; G6 on a Friday afternoon grading session. I concur. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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