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Esteemed member @numismatic student holds at VG, I hold at G0-04, a showdown of historic drama. Hold your breath!
Edited by Coinfrog
04/09/2022 10:21 pm
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I agree with NS that just one aspect of the coin should not determine a grade, but it still needs to be taken into account. If the obverse was just a tad stronger, and the reverse showed less rim wear into AMERICA, I could see a low end VG.
Taking the rims out of the equation: obverse is textbook G06 and the reverse is VG08. Eye of the eagle is still visible, some residual neck feathers, wing feathers and shield detail is what I'd expect from a VG reverse. That said, taking the rims into account, I think it nets G06, could green bean. Nice overall look and surfaces.
Edit: grammar.
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04/10/2022 11:08 am
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Wait a minute, wait a dar gone minute !I haven't had a chance to comment yet . I firmly agree with coinfrog . Because of the worn down reverse rims I'm also calling G-04 .
Besides that : No LIBERTY ,coin has many many hits and scratches .
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And the suspense builds...  |
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Come on Tony, you're telling me that Reverse is a GO4? Many many hits and scratches? I'm not seeing it. Typical wear and tear for a well circulated coin, sure, but nothing distracting. We'll have to agree to disagree  |
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NGC G-6 this one is my favorite G so far, granddaughter says its ugly and has marks her pick for "best of set" is 1897 O. We get to splitting hairs at kitchen table here. Thanks for comments it was the obverse wreath and dark tone that swayed me. My son picked it out off the bay for about 60 bucks I was very surprised he says I complicate easy to find coins and to let him do it. What? No way!   |
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The coffee in the office was good that morning and both of the grader's wives just had babies the day before.  Looks flat and lifeless compared to the ANACs one. I still ribbit. But, then again...its all opinion anyway...there is no one right answer when there is no verifiable standard used. Edited by Earle42
04/10/2022 12:14 pm
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give at least 24hrs prior to posting. 48 is better.
i have the obverse at real close to VG8. reverse G4+
net G6
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Come on Tony, you're telling me that Reverse is a GO4? Yes , that's exactly what I'm telling you .  Quote:
i have the obverse at real close to VG8. reverse G4+
net G6 How can you have the obverse At VG-8 when there is no trace of LIBERTY ?  |
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Grade-flation + good looker = better grade than deserved. Never would have graded G-06 when I was younger.
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I would be happy with that grade. Seems correct.
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Not sure I really want to walk into the middle of this Grade Fight at the Okey-Dokey Corral, but . . .
IMHO, the NCG G-06 is a net grade, and already takes into consideration the eye appeal. I don't see a bean here, because of the surface scratches on the throat and in the obverse field NW of stars 11 and 12.
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I like the NGC better because of the wreath, but I am fine with the grade on each coins. The thread has a lot of good points on grading.
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T-bop coinfrog come on your nealy never, rarely, in a blue moon going to see G-4 barber half's by TPG that look like these. Yes the rims definitely halt any consideration for VG that's elementary but the reality in April 2022 this is what G-6 looks like. |
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imo 2 of these coins are correctly graded and 2 are undergraded. The 1897 S (don't own) is a VG8 the 1893 S is a G6 the other two 1898 S and 1899 O are by the textbook correct G6. I don't buy coins are over graded today that's bigfoot theory. Standards are same today as 1980's maybe better? due to free easy access to info. I have held 2 or 3 OGH halfs from 1980's that had any impact on my personal grade, so that's another lockness serpent theory handed down from the ancients. Casual collectors are a different breed than 25 years ago, anyone with an android or smartphone has access to formerly rosetta stone level knowledge publications. Feinbaum "Lawrence" tackles rim issue quite non chalant 1991 "many 1890's Halfs will show VG obverse but not full reverse rims due to striking and dies" Bowers goes on along same lines in his "Barber Series". I accept what they wrote 30 years ago - so no I don't agree overgrading is new norm. As I assemble the series will keep under advisement full rim G4's but if that coins looking good I'm buying a weak rim G6. TPG's take into account now and did also before that about 1/4 of the barber halfs F and below and a quarter of the 1890's 25 centers F below most likely survive in the hundreds not thousands. My argument theory is most coins TPG graded today are in fact correct, the market would reject it. IMO " grading G and VG barbers ain't rocket science".         |
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