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Real Or Fake Athena Decadrachm!

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 Posted 04/15/2022  8:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Qusay to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone tell me is this coin real or fake please?
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 Posted 04/15/2022  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake.

I have several different sorts of fake Greek decadrachms of different styles and methods of manufacture, and levels of deception.
Why? - two reasons:
1. to educate myself on how to detect fake ancient coins generally, and
2. specifically to decadrachms, I would never to be able to afford a genuine example.

For your own education, try Google Images: 'Athena decadrachm'
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 Posted 04/15/2022  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Qusay to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would u post a picture for the original one please?
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 Posted 04/16/2022  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Google images will provide lots of images of genuine Athena decadrachms, for everybody's education.
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Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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 Posted 04/16/2022  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A real one would be silver, the engraving would be high quality and detailed, and it would cost $200,000+.
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@qusay, first welcome to CCF. Second, here are a couple numismatic articles which may be of interest:

https://coinweek.com/ancient-coins/...eatest-coin/
http://numismatics.org/digitallibra...5/nnan146798


You can also use the search functionality here on CCF with the keywords ATHENS and DECADRACHM to see examples of other coins, both real and fake that have been posted previously.

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@spence thank you very much.and thanx for all members here.
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"Real or fake decadrachm?"

When it comes to decadrachms? If you have to ask, it's almost certainly fake.

With the decadrachms of Athens, in particular, I'm not actually sure if there even are any known real examples outside a museum. (The decadrachms of Syracuse do have a few, but I'm a lot less confident about Athens.)
Of course it's always theoretically possible that someone would dig up a new one and then somehow get permission to sell it on auction, but if the chain of custody had gotten muddled enough for the current owner to not actually know the provenance, something had gone terribly wrong.
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((but if the chain of custody had gotten muddled enough for the current owner to not actually know the provenance, something had gone terribly wrong.))

For this cion there is no chain,,i have it and I found it in TIKRIT

Tikrit was a fortified castle built by the Romans, and its name was Moeniatigridis meaning Tigris Castle,and the city is mentioned in Assyrian texts in the writings of the Assyrian king Tokulti Ninurta II 890 - 884 BC.
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For this cion there is no chain,,i have it and I found it in TIKRIT
Did you find it yourself at an archaeological site? If so, then there's probably something about unlicensed archaeology in there, but it also opens the theoretical option of contemporary counterfeit. I.e. this is definitely not a real Athenian issue, but it could in principle be a local Assyrian one.
(There are many known Middle Eastern contemporary copies of Athenian tetradrachms; I'm not aware of any for decadrachms, but I can't see why they couldn't theoretically exist.)

If you "found it" by buying it off a local seller, then most likely the seller knew perfectly well it was fake and just hoped you would somehow assume otherwise.

Either way - to the CCF!
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