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1877 S Trade Dollar Opium Box With Picture

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I have to share this oddball cherrypick. This was listed on ebay as a normal Trade dollar. I looked at the reverse and noticed the seam on the rim, so I purchased it hoping it would open up. Sure enough, it was definitely worth the risk!

For those who don't know, this is called an opium box or box dollar. It is a hollowed-out Trade dollar with a hinge mechanism so it can open and close. People could put anything inside of them, but usually there is simply a loved one's photo.

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Super pick up.
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That is super cool!
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That is pretty cool, especially considering there was a photo in there too. A fun pick-up!
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Very cool.
I wonder who first made up this stuff about opium coins. It's way too small to hold an amount worth bothering with, and opium wasn't illegal until 1909 so there wasn't any reason to hide it. Real opium boxes looked like this.
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That is very interesting. I can see the seam, but how do you open it? I don't see any evidence of somewhere to grab to lift the reverse 'lid'.
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Very interesting, thanks!
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I can see the seam, but how do you open it?

That's the hard part. You need patience, a firm grip, and maybe some pain tolerance. I grabbed the coin by the edge reeding with my right hand, with my finger tips overhanging the edge. I slapped my right hand with the other hand, still holding the coin. If you do that enough times, the lid will open a little, and you can get a fingernail underneath to pry it up.
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Cool pick-up! .... The few I've owned over the years proved relatively easy to open. It was simply a matter of pressing one's thumb in a strategic area. If the mechanism is faulty, take it to a jeweler.

In addition to Trade dollars being repurposed like this, Columbian Half Dollars were also commonly used. I spotted fourteen of these box coins in a coin dealer's showcase some years ago. To my experience, these late nineteenth century "box" Trade dollars typically retail in the $250 to $350 range.The Columbian halves will fetch a hundred or so less.
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Cool find! It makes me wonder who is in that picture...what was their life like, and who carried that coin.
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Very kool!

Great, now I'm going to start collecting these now haha!
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Wow amazing, so that is probably an original late 1800s photo, and the seller didn't even know it was in there. This is one of the best ebay finds I have seen, now all of us are going to go scanning for Trade dollars with sliced seams!

It looks like above STATES it is gouged up a bit where they pried it open w/ a pin or something.
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Very interesting and unusual acquisition. Thanks for sharing!
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Nice, thanks for sharing.
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Thank you ExoGuy for the further information. I have seen the columbian halves before but not as often as the dollars.


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now all of us are going to go scanning for Trade dollars with sliced seams!

Chances are, not another one of these is going to pass through ebay unnoticed for a long time (although it never hurts to check, I will too!). My advice is to gain as much knowledge on coins and exonumia. The more you know, the better your chances are for cherrypicking! You never know what will be posted tomorrow...
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