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Why Is This 1652 Tagged As 'Graffiti'?

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There is a gouge at the bottom obverse, but that looks like 'damage', not 'graffiti'. I like this coin, it's the best I can see at the moment for the price. But of course 'graffiti' is about the worst details tag you can get. Am I missing something?

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 Posted 05/01/2022  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good question. Looks pretty nice to me as well.
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Found it - I pulled up the PCGS lookup, and you can see an 'F' carved under the right branch of the tree. Can see it in the ebay pics too, now that I know where to look. What a shame.
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 Posted 05/01/2022  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your right, looks dark on supplied photo but by making it a bit
brighter it is easy to see.
Looks like a more modern font, wonder what the purpose was?

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pretty nice coin none the less though I don't know the value of this coin.
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Thats a shame on such a lovely coin
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With the obvious damage at the bottom, this is a very nice looking coin - I wonder why someone would stamp a 'F' on it..
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Granted that stamping coins, akin to branding them to indicate ownership, was a rare occurrence, I've run across a few instances back in the 1800's where this was done. One early newspaper account reported a suspected thief was once caught when he was found to have some coins, stamped by the victim, in his pocket. Thus, a stamped coin was rendered a security device.

Many early silversmiths stamped coins, including silver ones, that were intended for melting. Then too, there was a collector I discovered who branded many of his rare collector coins with his name in script! Furthermore, museums were known to brand or mark coins in some fashion or another.
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Collectors of ancient / medieval coins and museums alike used to (and some might still do) apply a blob of paint with lot/cabinet/tray numbers inked on it to the coin's obverse or reverse.
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Museums also used to ink an acquisition number on their coins. I have a couple of conder tokens that have inked numbers on them and at least one where the ink was removed but the number is still visible due to differential toning. Back in the 18th and 19th century it wasn't uncommon for collector to ink variety numbers on their coins as well.

Stamping is a bit extreme though.
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