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1888-S Morgan Counterfeit

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Here are some examples I've come across that looked ok to my inexperienced eye, but were light and magnetic. What visual flaws do you see?
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Images are kind of small to see details clearly.



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Not sure if these images are any better @Coinfrog. thanks in advance for sharing your opinion and expertise!
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Frustrating how visually good the fakes can be. Denticles look uneven and too short in places (e.g. upper obverse) and wear on eagle's breast looks too great on the higher-condition example.
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My PUP is the shape of the nostril and the position of the date in relation to the denticals.
There are also minor differences on the reverse.
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Both coins came from the same cast. There are cast bumps on the reverse under the U in TRUST and to the left of the eagle's perch leaves. Both obverses have the same mark in the neck just above the point. The hair details on the obverse are soft that are often found on counterfeits. My guess is the third coin has the same cast bumps and mark on point of neck. These counterfeits were made from a circulated example. I am sure there are other marks or pits that you can find on all three copies.
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The second one doesn't even look like it has a rim at all. Just denticles straight into reeds.
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Yes!!! The "o" in "God" has the same mark making it look more like a "c"
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Pretty good looking fakes, but what is the point of looking OK if the weight is wrong? I've handled some of these things that felt as light as a piece of aluminum foil. No scale required.

These things are the coin collecting version of spam emails. Antique mall junkola.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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