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1941 P LWC Weighs 2.105 Gms, 18.3 MM

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I recently purchased a small box of old wheat cents. Two were in flips labeled thin edge. This 1941 and a 1961D which both are close in weight and diameter. Here is the 1941. The pic of scale was the first weight then I calibrated the scale and it weighed 2.105 gms. It is .8 mm thick. From top to bottom it is 18.3 mm. The other wheat cents in the box weighed normal and were 1.2mm
thick. Comments and thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance.

1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
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This appears to have been eaten away by acid, thus reducing overall dimensions and weight.
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Looks like it has been soaked in acid to me.
We have seen several of these on here.
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thanks everyone
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Agree with the acid assessment. Might be a fun example to keep in a 2x2.
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Acid trip for sure.
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Thanks ijn1944 and Coinfrog
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How do we know this is acid dipped? Note the devices? Although they are weak, if this were a thinned planchet issue, then the other devices would be normal size, but the tapered area would show weak/missing devices:
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM

So if this were a split off before the strike, we would be the devices full, but weak because of the missing layer that came off pre strike:
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM


If it split off after the strike, then the surface would be different:
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM
1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM

Because the devices are all present and the thickness was reduced, then it was a normal coin when struck, but was soaked in acid leaving the weakness and rough texture on the coin. Why would people do this:

1941-P-LWC-Weighs-2.105-Gms,-18.3-MM

So by using this information, we can figure out how jacrispies figured this out. But knowing the reason for the conclussion... Priceless.

CoopHome: How can you tell if a coin was PSD thinned/mint error thinned/struck through a thinned mint event? Knowing this would be a great aid.
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Thanks coop, very interesting information!
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Bits of different information, now tied into the fuller story of what/how/when something happened. More clues in the future will relate even more. I never say that it is compete yet. (Keeping an open mind)
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Definitely acid. If it was standard weight, could have been an error though!
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Thanks coop Dearborn and Skeletonwizard8
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"Timothy Leary" coin for sure.
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Ole Timothy did believe in "Acid Trips" @Petespockets55 lol
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